» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | | My 318ti build 05-21-2024 04:48 PM 05-28-2024 06:42 PM 1 Replies, 2,025 Views | | OMG!OMG! 05-28-2024 08:53 AM 05-28-2024 08:53 AM 0 Replies, 458 Views | | | | | | | 11-09-2006, 04:15 AM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fl...tampa area Posts: 320 | m3 front brakes under stock wheels? alright so recently i hit a racoon and ****ed up my bumper, had to get a new one and luckily a shop was parting an m3 so i grabbed the bumper. when i went down there i noticed X drilled rotors and ive been looking for some so i thought maybe ill buy the front brakes and rotors and swap it all over but ive got 2 sets of wheels. stock 15's which im gonna use for tracking the car and my everyday 17's. big question is will m3 brakes fit under 15 inch stock sport wheels. otherwise im just gonna get some zimmerman rotors or something, any links to those? | | | 11-09-2006, 04:20 AM | #2 | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 549 | Quote: Originally Posted by kelso big question is will m3 brakes fit under 15 inch stock sport wheels. | nope. __________________ 318Ti Sport (Gone, but thanks for your years of service) | M3 E30 | 190E-16V | M Coupe E36/8 | | | 11-09-2006, 04:23 AM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fl...tampa area Posts: 320 | damnit! ok well in that case can someone find some good X drilled rotors for the stock 318 brakes please | | | 11-09-2006, 04:24 AM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 549 | Quote: Originally Posted by kelso good X drilled rotors | Those words don't go together. Blanks are best. __________________ 318Ti Sport (Gone, but thanks for your years of service) | M3 E30 | 190E-16V | M Coupe E36/8 | | | 11-09-2006, 04:46 AM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fl...tampa area Posts: 320 | personal opinion there. cross drilled does work... cheap ones crack, thats why i want good ones like zimmermans | | | 11-09-2006, 04:47 AM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 549 | zimmermans crack. I pushed my set hard on my E30 m3 WITH cooling ducts on the street and on some spirited canyon runs. Good thing I never took them to the track. They're done. __________________ 318Ti Sport (Gone, but thanks for your years of service) | M3 E30 | 190E-16V | M Coupe E36/8 | | | 11-09-2006, 04:55 AM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 3,244 | If you plan on tracking your car and are willing to upgrade consider the e36 325/8 calipers and rotors or even better yet the e46 330 calipers and rotors. You'll have a lot more stopping power and can still do the slotted or drilled rotors if you insist. I know bav auto sells matching slotted and drilled rears for our cars which is a rarity. I bought the slotted from them and have been very happy. There is also another place in Cleveland (where I just left) that always had drilled/slotted sets at a good price. Can't vouch for their quality. Look on ebay fro greatlakesperformance or search brakes within 20 miles of 44118 (my old zip). __________________ My Former Rides 1999 318ti Alpine White, Cali Roof, Dinan goodies 1996 318ti Hellrot California Edition | | | 11-14-2006, 01:40 AM | #8 | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 | Grab the M3 front suspension and run the 17's only. If you need other wheels for track tires, get some cheap 17's from tire rack or something. The wheels will cost less than the brake kit. You can shed some weight with the spare too, since it won't fit the front brakes. BUT, if you keep the stock rear brakes, you can fit the spare on the rear. If you get a front flat, switch tires with the rear, and run the spare on the rear... You can mount your springs (or up-rate them a bit) on the M3 struts (or up-rate the struts as well) whch gives better caster, better responding sway bar and the big brakes you saw. A stock ti will stop wonderfully with M3 brakes, and all you do is bolt them on; no changes to the ABS pump or master cylinder. Why not? The M3 springs will be a bit too stiff for the four cylinder engine's weight. | | | 11-14-2006, 01:54 AM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 1,595 | Animals suck, I hit a cat 2 years ago and he busted my foglight and bracket. I know someone up here in Orlando who might still have new brembo drilled rotors for the rear of our car if you want them. | | | 11-14-2006, 02:24 AM | #10 | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Long Beach area Posts: 1,189 | Yes...get blank rotors... If youre going to upgrade, get 32x i/is brakes. Those should fit under the 15in rims. -Randy __________________ 97 Jet Black 318ti Sport. Not so stock anymore!.... Now Featuring:318ti.org sticker Now featuring: Hartge exhaust|Blacked out Grilles|Front Clear Corners or Ambers depending on how I feel|325is vented front brakes|Bilstein Sports|H&R Sports|E46 RSMs w/ Z3 reinforcment plates|16" Style 45s|17" E46 M68 rims|18" Authentic Hartge Classics C|OEM M135 ZHP wheels and 99 Titan Silver 323is Dinan S1+few more mods Coming sometime in the future:...SCed 2.1...new (to me) car mod maybe?...all in one car | | | 11-14-2006, 02:39 AM | #11 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 2,525 | I wouldn't consider zimmerman, bavauto, or even brembo sport drilled rotors good enough for track use.. The brembo sport rotors have this warning on them- "IMPORTANT REMINDER: Slotted, drilled or dimpled rotors offered as OEM replacements should not be considered appropriate for high-speed track use." If you are going to use cross drilled rotors on the track, get the BMW motorsport crossdrilled rotors.. Of course you will have to get different calipers to fit those rotors. | | | 11-14-2006, 10:06 PM | #12 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 3,244 | Quote: Originally Posted by J!m Grab the M3 front suspension and run the 17's only. If you need other wheels for track tires, get some cheap 17's from tire rack or something. | I always heard 17's for show, 16's for go and 15's for snow at least for stock M44's. Could be splitting hairs though. The e46 330 brakes still fit 16" wheels so it's a nice compromise, not sure about 15" wheels though (think they do). There is a great visual comparison between all these options buried deep in my bookmarks that I can never find when i need it. I've posted it before though. __________________ My Former Rides 1999 318ti Alpine White, Cali Roof, Dinan goodies 1996 318ti Hellrot California Edition | | | 11-14-2006, 10:13 PM | #13 | doesn't care about you. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,925 | Quote: Originally Posted by lkwd318ti If youre going to upgrade, get 32x i/is brakes. Those should fit under the 15in rims. -Randy | Correct, they just barely fit under 15" steelies. __________________ '99 Dinan M3 | | | 11-14-2006, 10:36 PM | #14 | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 | Quote: Originally Posted by 96cali I always heard 17's for show, 16's for go and 15's for snow at least for stock M44's. Could be splitting hairs though. | True enough, but this is the 21st century, so perhaps we can say "18's for show, 17's for go and 16's for snow"? Anyway, I have yet to drive any car with brakes that are "too good", so it really is up to you. It seems like you have an opportunity on your hands that you may regret later (say, after you purchase my swap manual, HINT HINT ), but really, if it is a street driven car, the stock brakes with good quality pads (such as the Porterfield R4S) will work splendidly for you. When I took delivery of my car new, I was well impressed with the braking quality on the stock brake pads and tires. | | | 11-14-2006, 10:54 PM | #15 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manassas, VA Posts: 4,129 | I bought these from BMP Designs, they are the bomb Quote: Originally Posted by kelso personal opinion there. cross drilled does work... cheap ones crack, thats why i want good ones like zimmermans | __________________ 1998 (July) 318ti, 5-spd OEM Armrest Blaupunkt Heidelberg CD50 CD Player/Compact Drive MP3 Player Diamond Audio 5.25" rear speakers Navman ICN 530 GPS BMWALARM.COM (with comfort settings) after market alarm system Magnecor 8.5mm wires M-Z3 Shifter/Momo Knob Burlwood Dashboard Stromung Exhaust X-brace Racing Dynamics Front Strut Bar Carbonio C.A.I. 17" Rial Rims Vader Seats/Heated/Lumbar Support M-tech Steering Wheel/Front Sway Bar/Front & Rear Bumper Depos/w 6500K Angel Eyes/6000K HIDs Clear Corners M3 Mirrors UUC Light Weight Flywheel/M5 Clutch/M3 Clutch Slave E28 3.46 LSD/Mcoupe Cover/E30 Flanges & Halfshafts UUC S.S. 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