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I'm looking for a car to pull swap parts off of and have been thinking about the S52 from and M Coupe/Roadster. How close are the chassis between them and the 318ti? I know they have the same rear E30 suspension and so forth, but the actual chassis is what I'm curious about. For instance are you S50/52 swapped guys able to run M exhaust systems, when ordering full suspension after rear subframe swap- do you just go with full M Coupe suspension? Just a few newb chassis questions before attacking a swap. Thanks! |  |  | | 12-05-2004, 09:52 PM | #2 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 9,356 |
You can swap the rear suspension, engine and tranny. Probably need the driveshaft too.
I don't know about the exhaust though.
Search the forum. l I know this has been discussed numerous times. __________________ ...steven
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The coupe`/roadster drive shaft and parking brake cables will be too short. Everthing else bolts right in. | | | | | 12-05-2004, 10:57 PM | #4 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 9,356 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by J!m The coupe`/roadster drive shaft and parking brake cables will be too short. Everthing else bolts right in. | Even if you use the Coupe's tranny? __________________ ...steven
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| | | | | 12-06-2004, 02:58 PM | #5 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 148 |
I can't speak for MCoupe/Roaster's exhaust but 1.9l cat-back bolts straight up (same hangers, same bends). The only catch is that an extension pipe needs to be welded in (about 10"). SL Quote: | Originally Posted by Steven Schlossman Even if you use the Coupe's tranny? | __________________ 1996 318ti Active Garrett aspirated...
1996 318ti Sport | | | | | 12-06-2004, 06:44 PM | #6 | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 8 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by J!m The coupe`/roadster drive shaft and parking brake cables will be too short. Everthing else bolts right in. | Is this from experience? Which cables and driveshaft did you use then? Stock or m3? And yes I have searched but can't find this specific info with what I've typed in- damn searches and words being too short. And as to the last post, at which point did the extension pipe need to be welded in? | | | | | 12-06-2004, 07:07 PM | #7 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 148 |
Right between the resonator and the "2 bolt flange" - about 10 inches. Also depending on the kind of the cat-back (ex. Remus ) you might have to modify (read cut out) some of the rear bumper to enlarge the opening for the tip. SL Quote: | Originally Posted by ill phil Is this from experience? Which cables and driveshaft did you use then? Stock or m3?
And yes I have searched but can't find this specific info with what I've typed in- damn searches and words being too short.
And as to the last post, at which point did the extension pipe need to be welded in? | __________________ 1996 318ti Active Garrett aspirated...
1996 318ti Sport | | | | | 12-06-2004, 08:01 PM | #8 | | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by Steven Schlossman Even if you use the Coupe's tranny? | I think so, since the wheelbase is shorter on the roadster and coupe. | | | | | 12-06-2004, 08:02 PM | #9 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 3,244 |
Doesn't the Mcoupe/Roadster have dual exhaust? Check out the image on the homepage here: http://www.z3roadster.com/ __________________
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1999 318ti Alpine White, Cali Roof, Dinan goodies
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| | | | | 12-06-2004, 08:04 PM | #10 | | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by ill phil Is this from experience? Which cables and driveshaft did you use then? Stock or m3?
And yes I have searched but can't find this specific info with what I've typed in- damn searches and words being too short.
And as to the last post, at which point did the extension pipe need to be welded in? | I used the stock ti parking brake cables, and modified the retainers on the trailing arms. I orginally installed it with the Roadster cables, and they were about 8 inches too short. The wheelbase is shorter on the coupe and roadster, so the brake handle is closer to the rear. | | | | | 12-07-2004, 04:45 PM | #11 | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 8 |
Awesome, thanks J!m and Kirasir. Definitely helps out with what i was looking for! | | | | | 12-07-2004, 07:21 PM | #12 | | Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 411 |
you can also put in the LSD differential if I'm right | | | | | 12-08-2004, 09:03 PM | #13 | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 8 |
Yeah, I know whole rear subframe, LSD, brakes and parts swap over and that will be coming soon enough- anyone know a good price for a whole rear swap from an M coupe/roadster?
I'm just trying to figure out closeness of parts to connect drivetrain and exhaust. | | | | | 12-09-2004, 02:23 AM | #14 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 148 |
Read my post above. I was referring to the 1.9L Z3. SL Quote: | Originally Posted by 96cali | __________________ 1996 318ti Active Garrett aspirated...
1996 318ti Sport | | | | | 12-09-2004, 07:53 PM | #15 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 3,244 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by ill phil I'm looking for a car to pull swap parts off of and have been thinking about the S52 from and M Coupe/Roadster.... For instance are you S50/52 swapped guys able to run M exhaust systems.... Thanks! | Yeah, but illphil was talking Mcoupe/Mroadster. Just saying the ti's rear valence and spare tire location makes this difficult. __________________
My Former Rides
1999 318ti Alpine White, Cali Roof, Dinan goodies
1996 318ti Hellrot California Edition
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