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ill phil 12-05-2004 09:09 PM

M Coupe Chassis Closeness?
 
I'm looking for a car to pull swap parts off of and have been thinking about the S52 from and M Coupe/Roadster. How close are the chassis between them and the 318ti? I know they have the same rear E30 suspension and so forth, but the actual chassis is what I'm curious about. For instance are you S50/52 swapped guys able to run M exhaust systems, when ordering full suspension after rear subframe swap- do you just go with full M Coupe suspension? Just a few newb chassis questions before attacking a swap. Thanks!

1996 328ti 12-05-2004 09:52 PM

You can swap the rear suspension, engine and tranny. Probably need the driveshaft too.

I don't know about the exhaust though.

Search the forum. l I know this has been discussed numerous times.

J!m 12-05-2004 10:52 PM

The coupe`/roadster drive shaft and parking brake cables will be too short. Everthing else bolts right in.

1996 328ti 12-05-2004 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J!m
The coupe`/roadster drive shaft and parking brake cables will be too short. Everthing else bolts right in.

Even if you use the Coupe's tranny?

KIRASIR 12-06-2004 02:58 PM

I can't speak for MCoupe/Roaster's exhaust but 1.9l cat-back bolts straight up (same hangers, same bends). The only catch is that an extension pipe needs to be welded in (about 10").

SL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Schlossman
Even if you use the Coupe's tranny?


ill phil 12-06-2004 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J!m
The coupe`/roadster drive shaft and parking brake cables will be too short. Everthing else bolts right in.

Is this from experience? Which cables and driveshaft did you use then? Stock or m3?

And yes I have searched but can't find this specific info with what I've typed in- damn searches and words being too short.

And as to the last post, at which point did the extension pipe need to be welded in?

KIRASIR 12-06-2004 07:07 PM

Right between the resonator and the "2 bolt flange" - about 10 inches. Also depending on the kind of the cat-back (ex. Remus ) you might have to modify (read cut out) some of the rear bumper to enlarge the opening for the tip.

SL

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill phil
Is this from experience? Which cables and driveshaft did you use then? Stock or m3?

And yes I have searched but can't find this specific info with what I've typed in- damn searches and words being too short.

And as to the last post, at which point did the extension pipe need to be welded in?


J!m 12-06-2004 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Schlossman
Even if you use the Coupe's tranny?

I think so, since the wheelbase is shorter on the roadster and coupe.

96cali 12-06-2004 08:02 PM

Doesn't the Mcoupe/Roadster have dual exhaust? Check out the image on the homepage here:

http://www.z3roadster.com/

J!m 12-06-2004 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill phil
Is this from experience? Which cables and driveshaft did you use then? Stock or m3?

And yes I have searched but can't find this specific info with what I've typed in- damn searches and words being too short.

And as to the last post, at which point did the extension pipe need to be welded in?

I used the stock ti parking brake cables, and modified the retainers on the trailing arms. I orginally installed it with the Roadster cables, and they were about 8 inches too short. The wheelbase is shorter on the coupe and roadster, so the brake handle is closer to the rear.

ill phil 12-07-2004 04:45 PM

Awesome, thanks J!m and Kirasir. Definitely helps out with what i was looking for!

Silver00spike 12-07-2004 07:21 PM

you can also put in the LSD differential if I'm right

ill phil 12-08-2004 09:03 PM

Yeah, I know whole rear subframe, LSD, brakes and parts swap over and that will be coming soon enough- anyone know a good price for a whole rear swap from an M coupe/roadster?
I'm just trying to figure out closeness of parts to connect drivetrain and exhaust.

KIRASIR 12-09-2004 02:23 AM

Read my post above. I was referring to the 1.9L Z3.

SL


Quote:

Originally Posted by 96cali
Doesn't the Mcoupe/Roadster have dual exhaust? Check out the image on the homepage here:

http://www.z3roadster.com/


96cali 12-09-2004 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill phil
I'm looking for a car to pull swap parts off of and have been thinking about the S52 from and M Coupe/Roadster.... For instance are you S50/52 swapped guys able to run M exhaust systems.... Thanks!

Yeah, but illphil was talking Mcoupe/Mroadster. Just saying the ti's rear valence and spare tire location makes this difficult.


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