» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | | | | | | | 07-11-2009, 06:38 PM | #16 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,464 | Up until about the end of last year, Diesel was always $.10-.15 higher than premium grade gas but since then, for some reason, it has been $.05-.10 less than regular grade. Guess people just aren't buying large diesel trucks anymore! | | | 07-11-2009, 07:30 PM | #17 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 1,587 | The 123d would be so perfect here. Enough power and excellent fuel economy. | | | 07-11-2009, 09:30 PM | #18 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Elizabeth City, NC Posts: 3,877 | This is what needs to happen for diesels to start looking like a better option financially. http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/06/w...fe-to-save-gm/ It seems so foolish to tax the most efficient fuel and not tax the least efficient at all. __________________ ~Dave~ 98 328ti Morea Grun slicktop 11 128i space gray slicktop 13 JGC WK2 Deep Cherry Search | RealOEM | | | 07-11-2009, 10:40 PM | #19 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: central ct Posts: 503 | last summer deisl was a full $1 more a gallon. now, it's about 20 cents cheaper than 87. __________________ 2010 Genesis Coupe 2.0t track | 2000 Dakota Former 1995 318ti owner | | | 07-11-2009, 11:32 PM | #20 | Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: hawaii Posts: 44 | Whenever gas prices climb dramatically, the gas companies shift a noticeable part of the load to diesel, and the price of diesel fuel climbs higher than premium gasoline. By doing this, they keep the regular gasoline prices *a little* lower, keeping supply and demand in check, and they get more money from a contingent that has no real choice but to buy just as much fuel as ever - the trucking industry. As a reference, I had a diesel truck from 2001- 2005, and i was paying less than 87 all the way up until late 2004. Last year, the prices skyrocketed, then dropped down below standard gas again. Now, they rise. It's a bit of a pain for us diesel lovers, but, in the end, we still save money by nearly doubling fuel economy. | | | 07-20-2009, 11:23 PM | #21 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 1,587 | LeftLaneNews.com says BMW USA has now confirmed four-cylinders for the USA! http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-conf...-s-market.html My guess is the engine in the biggest of the current four-cylinders (gasoline) will make it. The engine in the current E90 320i is 2.0 liter, direct injection, 170 HP. Or maybe they will have something new soon? 2.0 - 2.5 liter? Turbo? 200 HP or more? Last edited by CirrusSR22; 07-20-2009 at 11:29 PM. | | | 07-21-2009, 05:55 AM | #22 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sacramento Posts: 245 | Ill be in line, if i can get an Alpine White 135ti. | | | 07-26-2009, 02:34 AM | #23 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North San Diego County Posts: 108 | A bloated 4 banger Bimmer for NA Unfortunately, whatever 4 banger BMW NA brings over to the USA, rest assure it will be optioned out to the max and priced barely below the 6 cylinder models already here. BMW wants to keep the brand up there with MBZ in NA. The Mini Cooper is the BMW product that replaced the 318ti in the US market. I'd love a more basic equiped BMW 4 cylinder (rear-wheel drive) so you could squeeze out some extra performance (and fuel economy) without all the extra weight of the luxury model for sale now. Last edited by ElfinForest318ti; 07-26-2009 at 02:37 AM. | | | 07-27-2009, 04:58 PM | #24 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Burlington, NJ Posts: 560 | M-Benz phased out the 4 cyl models as well, so maybe this will fare well for BMW because they'll have a fuel efficient model in the line up. maybe a 120i priced around 25K? __________________ 1996 318ti - 2000 Z3 2.3 - 2012 MINI Cooper Hatchback | | | 05-12-2010, 02:54 PM | #25 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southwest England Posts: 379 | Quote: Originally Posted by Maverix WTH?! Really?! Our diesel is 10 cents more than our high grade gas! | Diesel used to be cheaper than unleaded here in the UK, it now sells for about 10 pence more. Apparently the increase is because they are unable to meet demand for the much larger number of diesel cars now in circulation but to me it just seems like a cynical attempt to milk the same amount of profit from drivers who prefer a more economical fuel. | | | 05-12-2010, 04:51 PM | #26 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Halethorpe, MD Posts: 1,028 | Quote: Originally Posted by MPWR What bullsh!t. Like a 4cyl performance car is somehow difficult. Perhaps they've not heard of Caterham or Lotus in Munich. You would think that if the Brits can do it, the Germans should be able to. Perhaps BMW has also forgotten something called the 2002tii, or the E30 M3.
| The Germans do it. It's called a VW GTI . BMW knows how to do it as well, since they're not having any problems with the Mini here or selling all those different 4 cylinder cars all over the rest of the world. What that chief engineer meant to say was that the BMW NA marketing department hasn't figured out how to convince wealthy but car ignorant lawyers and their wives that a puny 4 cylinder can still give them joy or the ultimate driving experience or whatever they decide to call it. I'm not sure why they're so hung up on this "4 cylinder isn't sporty" nonsense anyway. With a sufficiently large hp number in the ads (which they can easily do with a turbo) the average BMW driver will still buy the car because they don't really care or even know what's under the hood. | | | 05-13-2010, 01:48 AM | #27 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: asdfasdf Posts: 10,002 | Quote: Originally Posted by bullmand With a sufficiently large hp number in the ads (which they can easily do with a turbo) the average BMW driver will still buy the car because they don't really care or even know what's under the hood. | definitely, plenty of BMW drivers think they have a V6 under the hood | | | 08-21-2010, 03:28 AM | #28 | Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: beaufort sc Posts: 38 | sniff snifff....... i got wind from a higher up exec from BMW NA that not only will there be a 4cyl bmw and that they will be importing some of the technologies from the world markets, but there will be a fwd bmw coming up. I hope the last part gets axe'd . FWD und BMW are two acronyms that should not go together.... | | | 08-23-2010, 05:06 AM | #29 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North San Diego County Posts: 108 | I agree, I hope they kill the idea of a front wheel drive BMW. Totally oxymoronic! | | | 08-23-2010, 07:55 AM | #30 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 593 | Quote: Originally Posted by ZEK Dang straight. Maybe they even forgot about their 4 cylinder formula 1 motors producing around 1000hp. | They actually produced 1400bhp, but keep in mind, these were not street engines. They were throw away engines. They'd do one or two races, then they'd replace the motor. I do agree with how BMW has lost it's bearing with creating over weight cars. Bigger isn't always better and it's the one reason why I've stuck with the E36. They're much lighter than the current cars of the industry, and they've got the potential to create some amazing power. BMW has done a few good things, the advancement in engine technology, driver train, and handling have all been great. I only wish they made the cars lighter and smaller, but without much or very little sacrifice to being able to put larger tire sizes. This is the biggest limitation I've got on the E36s atm, without doing some serious flaring of wheel arches. | | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |