» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | 1999 M3 Swap 09-07-2023 10:10 PM 06-01-2024 03:04 PM 7 Replies, 409,541 Views | | My 318ti build 05-21-2024 04:48 PM 05-28-2024 06:42 PM 1 Replies, 3,295 Views | | OMG!OMG! 05-28-2024 08:53 AM 05-28-2024 08:53 AM 0 Replies, 1,266 Views | | | | | 12-18-2010, 05:22 PM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Merritt Island, FL Posts: 351 | euro 6 speed transmission q Just wanted to get a feeler on this one. Is $$1800.00 + my transmission as a trade a good deal for a euro 6 speed, supposedly in good shape? I think I can get a e46 6 speed for less, but I'm not too sure. Thanks, Chris __________________ Alpine Weiß 1995 318ti M50tu mostly stock, chip'd 413, AFE Intake. e36 M3 front brakes, e30 M3 rear calipers. e28 3.25 LSD + e30 axles. Custom stainless Magnaflow 2 in 1 out muffler. R.I.P schwartz 1990 325is | | | 12-18-2010, 05:42 PM | #2 | NOBODY F's with the Jesus Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ventura California Posts: 7,824 | Daaaang they've always been pretty expensive, but 1800 plus your old tranny is pretty steep. You could probably get a used one imported for less than that. Ask yourself how much it's worth to you to have an extra overdrive gear, and that's how much you should spend. How much of your commute would REALLY benefit from a sixth gear? How long would it take to justify the swap in gas/oil savings? @ $3gal, it would probably take 5 years or more to save $1800 considering the mpg you'd gain. | | | 12-18-2010, 06:57 PM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Merritt Island, FL Posts: 351 | I think that price is steep, but euro 6 speeds are kinda rare so I really don't know what the going rate is on them. I know I can get a good e46 6 speed transmission for ~$1500 outright and maybe even less if I looked hard enough. Now maybe if I could convince the guy to throw in the clutch, drive shaft, shifter linkage... then maybe 1600+trade? I would need all of that stuff to do the swap anyhow and he couldn't use it with my transmission so it would only make sense to do it that way (trying to build a case)... There is no way I could really justify installing one of these other than to say I would like to have one. My car is kind of a garage queen and with the current tune and 3.25 ratio diff it gets horrible gas mileage. I've never calculated it but it probably gets somewhere in the neighborhood of 20-23 mpg. My trip computer is reading like 48mpg and continues to climb but I think the chip or the 413 ecu is not translating that data to the trip computer correctly for some reason. It runs really good so that is all that I care about. __________________ Alpine Weiß 1995 318ti M50tu mostly stock, chip'd 413, AFE Intake. e36 M3 front brakes, e30 M3 rear calipers. e28 3.25 LSD + e30 axles. Custom stainless Magnaflow 2 in 1 out muffler. R.I.P schwartz 1990 325is | | | 12-18-2010, 08:23 PM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fl Posts: 1,353 | The real advantage to a 6 speed is the ability to run a higher numerical final drive without suffering from decreased top speed and fuel economy. The euro 6 speeds have the same ratios in gears 1-5 as the stock US 5 speeds. 5th gear is 1:1 and 6th is overdrive. I think 1600 is right on, do it and step up to a 3:73 or higher final drive, your car will be faster and rarer and I doubt you will suffer from buyer's remorse. __________________ SUPPORT 318ti.org! CLICK THE LINK ABOVE! Hosting a forum like this is not free. 318ti.org is one of the best BMW forums on the web because it is member supported, not vendor supported. The cost to become a Supporter is a nominal $10.00... A YEAR! DO IT! NOW! www.BimmerBum.com ALL NEW! 318ti Specific Parts For Sale www.facebook.com/BimmerBum BMWCCA #132203 95 318ti Club Sport 98 318ti Active S50 Swap | | | 12-18-2010, 08:33 PM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: norcal - 94590 Posts: 3,186 | Quote: Originally Posted by chrisbec I've never calculated it but it probably gets somewhere in the neighborhood of 20-23 mpg. My trip computer is reading like 48mpg and continues to climb but I think the chip or the 413 ecu is not translating that data to the trip computer correctly for some reason. It runs really good so that is all that I care about. | The OBC can be adjusted for some variance to reflect more accurate MPG ratings, but not enough for a swap. There is a chip / circuit board available for around $100 that will do the compensation and correct the numbers (Clex2 has it installed), but I haven't been able to justify buying it yet... I have seen euro 6-speed trans selling for as high as $3000 here in NorCal, so $1600 doesn't seem too outragous, but I am happy with my lower ratio (2.93) med case diff for now as I commute quite a bit in my ti... __________________ James 95 active w/leather interior and sport interior conversion, Vaders, full M-Tech exterior conversion. Now m50 swapped* Eibach sway bars, D2 Coilovers, Depo's w/AE's, blacked-out sides and grills, LeatherZ console and door armrests, 1 series starter button mod, and custom finished Style 5's <--- in this color! Named "Roddy": *M50 6 cyl. swap with fan delete, S50 cams and chip, AFE stage 2 intake, M3 clutch and 11.5 lb Fidanza flywheel, 3.15LSD, battery relocated to rear and complete custom exhaust. Sweet! 97 318ti sport, Alaska Blue, Contours, coilovers, Dove Vaders and custom black/grey interior named "Max" 95 318ti Active in Cosmos, S50 swap in progress... named "Pit" SUPPORT 318ti.org! CLICK THE LINK ABOVE! Hosting a forum like this is not free. 318ti.org is one of the best BMW forums on the web because it is member supported, not vendor supported. The cost to become a Supporter is a nominal $10.00... A YEAR! DO IT! NOW! | | | 12-18-2010, 09:11 PM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southwest England Posts: 379 | I'd love a 6th gear in mine, although I love the sound of the M44, the noise from the engine revving at 4000-4500k when cruising can get tiring on really long runs, especially since we have a lot of very noisy road surfaces in the UK compared to elsewhere in Europe. | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |