» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | 1999 M3 Swap 09-07-2023 10:10 PM 05-02-2024 08:18 PM 6 Replies, 331,325 Views | | | | | | 03-30-2006, 01:42 AM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portugal - Lisboa Posts: 205 | Staggered setup on M42 powered ti Hello... My ti is running on a set of M Kontours, 7,5X17 in the front and 8,5X17 in the back. I currently have 235/40/17 tyres on all 4 wheels. I was considering doing the M3 staggered setup, wich is 225/45/17 on the front and 245/40/17 on the back. Would this setup improve the handling? Or would the rear tyres have too much grip for the M42 engine? Wich option would be best, handling wise? Regards! __________________ Portuguese 318ti MODS: Staggered M Kontours; Mtec Side Trim with M3 badges; Mtec Steering wheel with Airbag; M3 Modified Shift Lever; M3 Leather Shift Knob, Leather Centre Arm Rest; Euro Clear turn signals; M3 Electric and Heated Side Mirrors; Cat replaced by straight pipe; Mtec Rear Bumper; E36 M3 Front Brakes with EBC Drilled and Slotted Rotors and EBC Red Stuff Pads; Vader Seats. More to come! My Picture Gallery: http://www.318ti.org/gallery/showgal...r=1407&cat=500 | | | 03-30-2006, 02:03 AM | #2 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Walnut Creek, CA Posts: 642 | Quote: Originally Posted by 318ti_Portugal Hello... My ti is running on a set of M Kontours, 7,5X17 in the front and 8,5X17 in the back. I currently have 235/40/17 tyres on all 4 wheels. I was considering doing the M3 staggered setup, wich is 225/45/17 on the front and 245/40/17 on the back. Would this setup improve the handling? Or would the rear tyres have too much grip for the M42 engine? Wich option would be best, handling wise? Regards! | Portugal, The stock M42/M44 is, in my opinion, not powerful enough for a staggered set up. I would stay with the same size all around from a purely handling perspective. In reality, unless you track the car or really drive hard on the street, you may never notice. Some people just like the staggered look, and that's fine, too. Nice color ti, but based on those pictures, your next mod is your suspension to get rid of the fender gap. __________________ '95 330ti CS w/sr delete, S50USB30, cams, 24# inj, Conforti SW, Euro HFM, Samco Silicone Intake Boot, BBTB, Euro Oil Cooler, JTD CAI Duct, RE DMS exhaust, RE Tranny mounts, CF Valve Cover, LTW flywheel/Kevlar sprung hub clutch, RE SSK, 3.46 Finned LSD (M6) , M3 tranny, Brembos, RE Wheel Studs, SS brake/clutch lines, CF interior, Rear Headrest retrofit, Tilt Steering retrofit, 13.5 lb DynaBatt in rear, LED interior/footwell lights, ZKW HID, Headlight Aim Control, Rear fog light w/cluster indicator, CF 3 Aux gauge pod, BMW Traffic Pro/Alpine MP3-CD Changer, Staggered LTW wheels, '95 M3 steering rack, VIS CF Hood, M3 LTW Strut Bar, TCK SA coilovers, Red LTW Motorsport Seatbelts, OEM Fire Extinguisher, Z8 Starter button, Auto dim rear view mirror w/ Homelink/Compass, PDC, Rear Sun Shade, Euro Gauge Cluster w/oil temp/shift light , Headlight Washers, "Motorsport" Door Handles, CF Grills, French ZKW Fogs, Euro dash bins, Power Lumbar Support is next, Coming e39 M5 interior light, Bimmer Magazine 8/2007 | | | 03-30-2006, 02:09 AM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muncie, Indiana Posts: 1,551 | Wider tires on the rear will cause more understeer, but like clex said on the street I doubt you will ever notice. | | | 03-30-2006, 02:27 AM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portugal - Lisboa Posts: 205 | Yes... My next mod is the suspension... H&R cupkit on the way... I like to drive my car hard, and as much as I would like the staggered look, the handling is my main concern... __________________ Portuguese 318ti MODS: Staggered M Kontours; Mtec Side Trim with M3 badges; Mtec Steering wheel with Airbag; M3 Modified Shift Lever; M3 Leather Shift Knob, Leather Centre Arm Rest; Euro Clear turn signals; M3 Electric and Heated Side Mirrors; Cat replaced by straight pipe; Mtec Rear Bumper; E36 M3 Front Brakes with EBC Drilled and Slotted Rotors and EBC Red Stuff Pads; Vader Seats. More to come! My Picture Gallery: http://www.318ti.org/gallery/showgal...r=1407&cat=500 | | | 03-30-2006, 02:40 AM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne, Fl/Athens, AL Posts: 393 | You should talk to Viper3812. He's running a staggered setup with a drop, so he may give you some insight into how it handles. IIRC, he loves the way it handles. __________________ -Kenny | | | 03-30-2006, 04:39 AM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: southern CA Posts: 127 | Variance, are your wheels the same as the e36 m3 csl? I saw a set on ebay a while back. Are they forged? Thanks __________________ 1996 318ti sport model, m3 bumper cover, velocity splitter, AKG shift knob, factory clears, super sprint exhaust, UUC floormats, UUC tranny mounts, UUC clutch bushings, UUC shifter bushings, Powerflex LCABS... replaced with treehouse eyeballs, front sway bar bushings, RTABS, TMS rear shock mounts, Bilsteins, Xbrace, sparco strut brace, AKG subframe bushings, AKG differential mount bushing, M coupe shifter, meyle ball joints and sway bar endlinks | | | 03-30-2006, 04:55 AM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne, Fl/Athens, AL Posts: 393 | Yes, but they're replicas. The real ones are forged, but the ones you saw on ebay were most likely cast, like mine. Oh, and in case you're wondering, it's the M3 LTW (lightweight), not CSL. __________________ -Kenny | | | 04-04-2006, 03:14 AM | #8 | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 | Quote: Originally Posted by Variance Yes, but they're replicas. The real ones are forged, but the ones you saw on ebay were most likely cast, like mine. Oh, and in case you're wondering, it's the M3 LTW (lightweight), not CSL. | LTW and CSL are for all intents and purposes, interchangeable. CSL (Coupe Sport Leight) is the internal designation that has (on the E46) become accepted on the street (and was also used back on the 'batmobile' coupes). If you look at the factory tags on the '95 M3 Lightweight, you see it is designated as the CSL. As far as the wheels go, there are two versions (both forged) from the factory. The ones used on the LTW are un-polished, and have BMW MOTORSPORT deeply cast into the inner ring, just outside the lug holes. The later version does not have the writing cast in, but adds the small "M" sticker added, and after paint, they are machined in the center (like yours, and mine). Both versions of these wheels are difficult to find used, as they are extremely expensive new and most people don't spend the extra money. | | | 04-04-2006, 03:57 AM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne, Fl/Athens, AL Posts: 393 | Ah, I stand corrected on the terminology. __________________ -Kenny | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Thread Tools | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |