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Old 01-18-2006, 12:51 PM   #1
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Default Pic request: Mtec Suspension.

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Can someone please post pics of a ti with OEM Mtec, sport, clubsport suspension? I need to see the lowering of those springs.
Also, some pictures with HR springs (1.4; 1.0 lowering) would be really great!

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Old 01-18-2006, 02:29 PM   #2
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Sport / club sport ride height is 10 cm lower than stock ti ride height. Springs are slightly stiffer as well, maybe 20%? That may be a high estimate.

Sway bars (F&R) are larger (stiffer) as well.
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i think you likely meant 10mm or 1 cm ... 10cm is quite a bit
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Old 01-18-2006, 04:01 PM   #4
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i think you likely meant 10mm or 1 cm ... 10cm is quite a bit
Oh, yeah. That's 0.394 inch, just over 3/8 (0.375) of an inch. That's what I meant. less than 1/2 inch (0.500) or 12.7mm.

NOT 10cm [3.94 inches] (scraping the earth)

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Here's document straight from the dealer about 318ti ride height. 15mm drop, front and rear. "Normal" E36's only are dropped 11mm in the rear BTW.

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HR springs, bilstein sports and 17" wheels (no visible gap between tire and fender):

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Hello...

Thank you for all the replies.
I'm going to go a different route.
Mtec compact springs front and rear with E36 M3 front struts + E36 M3 front sway bar and rear m roadster struts.

What do you think of this combo?

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HR springs, bilstein sports and 17" wheels (no visible gap between tire and fender):
those the HR comfort ones D or sports? both have the same drop, but as i drive a shiat load for work comfort is a BIG factor.....
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Hello...

Thank you for all the replies.
I'm going to go a different route.
Mtec compact springs front and rear with E36 M3 front struts + E36 M3 front sway bar and rear m roadster struts.

What do you think of this combo?

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The rear are just shocks, not struts, but that sounds fine. You may want to add the M coupe rear sway bar for the rear, X-brace and front strut brace in front. M3 caster tops are nice, and I strongly suggest (since you are doing all this work anyway) front strut mount reinforcement plates and rear shock mount reinforcement plates (about $20 for each set).
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Old 01-19-2006, 02:18 AM   #10
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The rear are just shocks, not struts, but that sounds fine. You may want to add the M coupe rear sway bar for the rear, X-brace and front strut brace in front. M3 caster tops are nice, and I strongly suggest (since you are doing all this work anyway) front strut mount reinforcement plates and rear shock mount reinforcement plates (about $20 for each set).
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"Why drive all over town looking for the parts you'll need to install new shocks and springs on your E36 3-series? This kit includes everything you need! The kit includes the following parts: E46 M3 rear shock mounts, M-Roadster rear shock mount reinforcement plates, rear shock mount gaskets, 3.2L M3 front shock tower reinforcement plates, front strut bearing gaskets, 10 lock nuts, zip ties to reinforce the bumpstops and a tube of Lock-tite Red."

Is this what you talk about the reinforcements minus the Xbrace and strut brace?
For the caster tops, should I look for a specific year of a M3, or any E36 M3 tops will do?

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Old 01-20-2006, 01:29 AM   #11
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yes, any year E36 M3 caster tops will do. The hole for the strut is not centered in the three mount bolts. Easy to tell from normal ones.

That kit is great with one exception: the rear shock mounts (E46 ones) FAILED within 200 feet of instalation with Bilstein Sport shocks. I had to get a set of 'race' mounts, but have not had any problems since.

For stock, that's a great kit!
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Old 01-20-2006, 08:25 PM   #12
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What about M3 LCAs? Is there a specific year to get the offset LCAs?

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Old 01-20-2006, 10:59 PM   #13
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OK here's the skinny on US M3 LCA's...

1995 used the offset lower control arm bushings, similar to E30 M3s

1996 and up, the LCA was changed slightly, to eliminate the need for the offset LCAs.

What I do is to use the later (1996-up) LCAs with 1995 offset bushings. This moves the front wheel forward about an inch, transfering some of the weight to the rear. Cool mod for anyone doing a swap, but I doubt there would be much benifit for a four cylinder car...
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Old 01-20-2006, 11:42 PM   #14
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MENDI3, that's a nice looking ti!

J!m, you mentioned US LCAs.
Did the euro 95 M3 came with the offset LCA?

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