» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | looove 04-16-2024 01:18 PM 04-16-2024 01:18 PM 0 Replies, 566 Views | | lolita porn 04-13-2024 11:45 PM 04-13-2024 11:45 PM 0 Replies, 230 Views | lolita porn 04-13-2024 11:43 PM 04-13-2024 11:44 PM 1 Replies, 151 Views | lolita porn 04-13-2024 11:40 PM 04-13-2024 11:41 PM 1 Replies, 158 Views | lolita porn 04-13-2024 11:38 PM 04-13-2024 11:39 PM 1 Replies, 166 Views | lolita porn 04-13-2024 11:36 PM 04-13-2024 11:37 PM 1 Replies, 164 Views | lolita porn 04-13-2024 11:35 PM 04-13-2024 11:35 PM 0 Replies, 140 Views | lolita porn 04-13-2024 11:34 PM 04-13-2024 11:34 PM 0 Replies, 142 Views | lolita porn 04-13-2024 11:33 PM 04-13-2024 11:33 PM 0 Replies, 138 Views | | | | | | 01-09-2008, 04:40 AM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Orange County, NY Posts: 1,067 | Bill O'Reilly attacks Obama staffer http://foxattacks.com/obama FOX news and their anchors have no class. "you remind me of school on a Sunday, NO CLASS" Redman | | | 01-09-2008, 05:17 AM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 3,212 | I disagree with basically everything Bill O'rielly has to say, especially when he talks about illegal immigration. IGNORANCE, that's all i gotta say. I have seen some of his shows and I'm like how could he still be on. Bill O'rielly | | | 01-10-2008, 07:26 AM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Orange County, NY Posts: 1,067 | I can't stand that @sshole. What is illegal about immigration? This whole f#cking country is built on immigration. | | | 01-10-2008, 02:34 PM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Regensburg, Germany Posts: 584 | Well, since you have felt the need to let everyone know how you feel...What is illegal about immigration?!! Well, for starters, the fact that I pay taxes that they dont pay, yet they reap the benefits of that tax money. We have a big problem with MS13 here, I doubt most of them came into this country legally. While business owners benefit from having illegals work for lower wages, the actual legal citizens that need those jobs cant get a job. Another fun thing illegals like to do around here is drive without a license and without insurance; when they get in a accident (which seems to happen often) they run, leaving the victim to claim the accident on their insurance. | | | 01-10-2008, 06:09 PM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 2,525 | And to be super clear, there is a very big difference between legal immigration and illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is a problem, because, well... it is illegal.. | | | 01-10-2008, 08:07 PM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 3,212 | MS13 has nothing to do with illegal immigration. People associate their illegal activities to illegal immigration. They smuggle both people and drugs because they will recieve a bigger profit, they are basically hitting two birds with one stone. If the United States didn't have a drug problem the drug lords wouldn't be smuggling drugs into the country. Illegal immigrants for the most part only want to work and wanna make their lives better. I'll admit there's some that cause trouble, but we shouldn't judge everyone because of them. The only reason it's illegal, it's because a law was placed by man. The same thing happened when columbus 1st arrived. Just because it wasn't written on paper, it doesn't mean that they had the right to take over, and almost eradicate the native americans. It all comes down to the government using illegal immigration as a escape goat for the war. I know there's going to be people that disagree with me, but I'm not trying to be a d*ck. Believe me I have had these dicussions at school and it didn't lead us no where. Some people just see it a different way, I'm usually cool and mellow about things, but immigration is something that i can't be quite about. Let's try to keep an open mind about this and be cool about it. | | | 01-10-2008, 08:18 PM | #8 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Orange County, NY Posts: 1,067 | Quote: Originally Posted by BobbyDigital Well, since you have felt the need to let everyone know how you feel...What is illegal about immigration?!! Well, for starters, the fact that I pay taxes that they dont pay, yet they reap the benefits of that tax money. We have a big problem with MS13 here, I doubt most of them came into this country legally. While business owners benefit from having illegals work for lower wages, the actual legal citizens that need those jobs cant get a job. Another fun thing illegals like to do around here is drive without a license and without insurance; when they get in a accident (which seems to happen often) they run, leaving the victim to claim the accident on their insurance. | If you granted citizenship to everyone that requested it, then all of them would be paying taxes. I know of all the angles you bring up. Gangs are everywhere, what about the KKK? Every example you mention are cop outs. This country is huge. There is so much land. We need to be generous. The natives had no choice on this matter. Why are we sending billions in aid to countries that don't need the money? Our priorities are mixed up in the White House. | | | 01-10-2008, 09:10 PM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 3,212 | Quote: Originally Posted by Ji Money If you granted citizenship to everyone that requested it, then all of them would be paying taxes. I know of all the angles you bring up. Gangs are everywhere, what about the KKK? Every example you mention are cop outs. This country is huge. There is so much land. We need to be generous. The natives had no choice on this matter. Why are we sending billions in aid to countries that don't need the money? Our priorities are mixed up in the White House. | True that. Anyway MS13 isn' the only gangs that deal with drugs, there's black gangs, asian gangs, and white gangs too. | | | 01-10-2008, 10:50 PM | #10 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,224 | the argument that immigrants are taking away jobs from citizens is BS. Below minimum-wage jobs are technically illegal. What citizens are going for those. As far as I know, everyone who was willing to be paid off the books has a' job. find me a "citizen" who is complaining that they couldn't get a job washing clothes for $1/hr and I'll find you someone full of it. | | | 01-10-2008, 10:52 PM | #11 | Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Little Rock Posts: 51 | Ji- You probably want to give illegals driver licenses too? (NY) I'm gonna puke... Why not let everyone in? I'm sure national security won't be compromised! | | | 01-10-2008, 10:53 PM | #12 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Westfield, IN Posts: 1,335 | we are doing this social proj. in english and so many people did immigration. the immigrants said illegals should be allowed to enter without having to jump the fence. and the white people said that the laws should be harsher. the way i look at it is the immigrants are good for this country because they help out with the economy. but they also kinda destroy they economy because the non working americans(whites/blacks) don't have jobs to help out the econ. and the immigrants(illegals i hate using that) are taking good paying jobs for less money and taking jobs away from working hard citizens thanks for reading __________________ Greg M42 Club member 186 WTB: HELLROT RED CLUB SPORT 95 ti sold but staying in the family. | | | 01-10-2008, 10:55 PM | #13 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Westfield, IN Posts: 1,335 | Quote: Originally Posted by tybate Ji- You probably want to give illegals driver licenses too? (NY) I'm gonna puke... Why not let everyone in? I'm sure national security won't be compromised! | both very good reasons __________________ Greg M42 Club member 186 WTB: HELLROT RED CLUB SPORT 95 ti sold but staying in the family. | | | 01-10-2008, 11:04 PM | #14 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,224 | I'm not sure those "good paying jobs" actually exist. I got my job as an embedded systems engineer. I think it was a good paying job. I doubt someone unskilled could get it. Furthermore, the company would lose out by attempting to fill the job with someone unskilled just so they could pay (say half what I was making). I don't think small business owners are out giving jobs to undocumented workers (how's that instead of "illegals"?) just because they are there and will work for cheap. They get those jobs because the are willing to work for what the business can AFFORD to pay. Also, like I mentioned before, THERE is a shortage of citizens who are actively looking for the jobs that undocumented workers are supposedly stealing away. | | | 01-11-2008, 12:47 AM | #15 | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Orange County, NY Posts: 1,067 | I don't know what's worse, the fact that the government mandated minimum wage is so insulting, or the those job that actually pay minimum wage are hard to come by now. | | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |