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Old 01-09-2008, 04:40 AM   #1
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Default Bill O'Reilly attacks Obama staffer

http://foxattacks.com/obama

FOX news and their anchors have no class.

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Old 01-09-2008, 05:05 AM   #2
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Not that I watch his show, but...

http://reddit.com/info/64toz/comments/
Let's all vote no on Bill O'rielly's online poll about Obama. See if he mentions the results tomorrow.

http://www.billoreilly.com/?poll
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I disagree with basically everything Bill O'rielly has to say, especially when he talks about illegal immigration. IGNORANCE, that's all i gotta say. I have seen some of his shows and I'm like how could he still be on.

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Old 01-10-2008, 07:26 AM   #4
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I can't stand that @sshole. What is illegal about immigration? This whole f#cking country is built on immigration.
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Well, since you have felt the need to let everyone know how you feel...What is illegal about immigration?!!

Well, for starters, the fact that I pay taxes that they dont pay, yet they reap the benefits of that tax money.

We have a big problem with MS13 here, I doubt most of them came into this country legally.

While business owners benefit from having illegals work for lower wages, the actual legal citizens that need those jobs cant get a job.

Another fun thing illegals like to do around here is drive without a license and without insurance; when they get in a accident (which seems to happen often) they run, leaving the victim to claim the accident on their insurance.
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And to be super clear, there is a very big difference between legal immigration and illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is a problem, because, well... it is illegal..
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MS13 has nothing to do with illegal immigration. People associate their illegal activities to illegal immigration. They smuggle both people and drugs because they will recieve a bigger profit, they are basically hitting two birds with one stone. If the United States didn't have a drug problem the drug lords wouldn't be smuggling drugs into the country. Illegal immigrants for the most part only want to work and wanna make their lives better. I'll admit there's some that cause trouble, but we shouldn't judge everyone because of them. The only reason it's illegal, it's because a law was placed by man. The same thing happened when columbus 1st arrived. Just because it wasn't written on paper, it doesn't mean that they had the right to take over, and almost eradicate the native americans. It all comes down to the government using illegal immigration as a escape goat for the war. I know there's going to be people that disagree with me, but I'm not trying to be a d*ck. Believe me I have had these dicussions at school and it didn't lead us no where. Some people just see it a different way, I'm usually cool and mellow about things, but immigration is something that i can't be quite about. Let's try to keep an open mind about this and be cool about it.
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Well, since you have felt the need to let everyone know how you feel...What is illegal about immigration?!!

Well, for starters, the fact that I pay taxes that they dont pay, yet they reap the benefits of that tax money.

We have a big problem with MS13 here, I doubt most of them came into this country legally.

While business owners benefit from having illegals work for lower wages, the actual legal citizens that need those jobs cant get a job.

Another fun thing illegals like to do around here is drive without a license and without insurance; when they get in a accident (which seems to happen often) they run, leaving the victim to claim the accident on their insurance.

If you granted citizenship to everyone that requested it, then all of them would be paying taxes. I know of all the angles you bring up.

Gangs are everywhere, what about the KKK?

Every example you mention are cop outs. This country is huge. There is so much land. We need to be generous. The natives had no choice on this matter. Why are we sending billions in aid to countries that don't need the money? Our priorities are mixed up in the White House.
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If you granted citizenship to everyone that requested it, then all of them would be paying taxes. I know of all the angles you bring up.

Gangs are everywhere, what about the KKK?

Every example you mention are cop outs. This country is huge. There is so much land. We need to be generous. The natives had no choice on this matter. Why are we sending billions in aid to countries that don't need the money? Our priorities are mixed up in the White House.
True that. Anyway MS13 isn' the only gangs that deal with drugs, there's black gangs, asian gangs, and white gangs too.
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the argument that immigrants are taking away jobs from citizens is BS. Below minimum-wage jobs are technically illegal. What citizens are going for those. As far as I know, everyone who was willing to be paid off the books has a' job. find me a "citizen" who is complaining that they couldn't get a job washing clothes for $1/hr and I'll find you someone full of it.
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Ji- You probably want to give illegals driver licenses too? (NY) I'm gonna puke...

Why not let everyone in? I'm sure national security won't be compromised!
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we are doing this social proj. in english and so many people did immigration. the immigrants said illegals should be allowed to enter without having to jump the fence. and the white people said that the laws should be harsher.

the way i look at it is the immigrants are good for this country because they help out with the economy.

but they also kinda destroy they economy because the non working americans(whites/blacks) don't have jobs to help out the econ. and the immigrants(illegals i hate using that) are taking good paying jobs for less money and taking jobs away from working hard citizens

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Ji- You probably want to give illegals driver licenses too? (NY) I'm gonna puke...

Why not let everyone in? I'm sure national security won't be compromised!
both very good reasons
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I'm not sure those "good paying jobs" actually exist.

I got my job as an embedded systems engineer. I think it was a good paying job. I doubt someone unskilled could get it. Furthermore, the company would lose out by attempting to fill the job with someone unskilled just so they could pay (say half what I was making).

I don't think small business owners are out giving jobs to undocumented workers (how's that instead of "illegals"?) just because they are there and will work for cheap. They get those jobs because the are willing to work for what the business can AFFORD to pay.

Also, like I mentioned before, THERE is a shortage of citizens who are actively looking for the jobs that undocumented workers are supposedly stealing away.
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I don't know what's worse, the fact that the government mandated minimum wage is so insulting, or the those job that actually pay minimum wage are hard to come by now.
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