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Old 01-07-2010, 07:08 PM   #1
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Default What are the ti swap opptions?

So my OBDII M44's head gasket is leaking, and rather than fix it I keep kicking around the idea of a 6cyl swap. Thing is I don't know if I can afford it. Probably because I can't! An M3 motor is definitely going to be too expensive. But there so many BMW 6es out there, surely I could find something cheep. right???

1. I'm curious about what are the different 6cyl engines that one might consider swapping into a ti?

2. And generally what am I going to needed to pull this off? >engine, mounts, engine wiring harness, ecu, interment cluster, radiator, exhaust?, transmission???, diff???? this is sounding expensive

3. I've recently installed a 3.73 LSD. Am I gonna want to run this diff or likely switch it out?

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There's a LOT of info about this topic here in the engine swap section. I suggest doing some browsing until you come up with some more specific questions.

I know very little about engine swaps, but I think the following is accurate...
1) Any engine that will fit in the E36 Sedan will fit into the 318ti. So, compile a list of all the engines that were offered in the E36 Sedan.
2) Depends on your final engine choice.
3) Depends on your final engine choice.

To elaborate way too much on question #1... one "might consider" swapping ANY engine in existance into a 318ti. But many of those aren't "financially viable" options. :-D

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i say u go with an lt/ls1 :P that way bluebimma isnt the only 357ti on here. haha.. im playin.
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Since you have an M44, you're gonna want to look into an S52 3.2L or M52 2.8L conversion. I suggest purchasing a wrecked car so you'll have everything needed for the swap.
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yeah the S52 is definitely too expensive. Looks like I could swing a M50.... but would it be worth the trouble i wonder. M52's seam quite abit more expensive
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yeah the S52 is definitely too expensive. Looks like I could swing a M50.... but would it be worth the trouble i wonder. M52's seam quite abit more expensive
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You have an OBDII. M50's are OBDI. Sure, you can swap one into your car, but it'll be much more difficult and also illegal. Do whatever you like, but please spend a few minutes and do some research.
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Well that is good to know. Definitely not going back to an ODBI motor. Thanks Jess!

Looks like an M52 or else a DASC are really the only two budget options for more power in the ti
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Just keep an eye on craigslist, wrecked 328's and M3's pop up all of the time. Supercharger is always an option, but of course you'll want to get that headgasket replaced which would make that route even more expensive than a swap.
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What do people think of the 5.0 (AKA 5-point-slow) swaps?

Plentiful and dirt cheap ... many modding options ... Joe Dirt can work on them.
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What do people think of the 5.0 (AKA 5-point-slow) swaps?
Unless there's only one 5-liter engine in existence, you might want to be just a bit more specific. :-)
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What do people think of the 5.0 (AKA 5-point-slow) swaps?

Plentiful and dirt cheap ... many modding options ... Joe Dirt can work on them.
http://www.318ti.org/forum/showthread.php?t=24620
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Would love to show you my swap in progress, swap manual & my expense book so far if you're interested since we are local. Any help I can give I would be more than happy to provide. also check my swap thread out.
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the 5.7 ls1 or lt1 is a better motor than the ford 5.0. plus they make a swap kit for the 5.7 dont they? both maintain a pretty even front/rear weight ratio.
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That was the thread that got me thinking about the 5.0, but there's not a lot of discussions of the pros & cons there. That's how I found E36V8.com.

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Unless there's only one 5-liter engine in existence, you might want to be just a bit more specific. :-)
While there may be many 5-liter engines out there, there is only one 5.0 (AKA 5-Point-Slow). For the unenlightened , it's a FoMoCo.

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the 5.7 ls1 or lt1 is a better motor than the ford 5.0. plus they make a swap kit for the 5.7 dont they? both maintain a pretty even front/rear weight ratio.
Well, better is relative. From a performance standpoint, I'd agree, but from a budget standpoint, I think the 5.0 (FoMoCo) would be a much cheaper swap.
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