» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | | | | | | | 10-14-2006, 07:13 PM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ipswich Posts: 656 | bmw short shift To all you guys thinking of buying a short shift kit here is some info for you the Z3M SSK here's the part numbers - 25.11.7.527.254 = Shift lever £38 x1 - 25.11.1.220.600 = Shift lever bearing £5.70 x1 - 25.11.1.220.439 = Spacer ring £0.14 x 4 (in case you lose 2) - 25.11.1.220.379 = Circlip £0.28 x2 (in case one is lost) The shift lever does need to be bent slightly before fitting This will be of help to when you come to fit, Though the part numbers above are the ones you need, as some have been superseeded since that write up. http://www.understeer.com/shiftlever.shtml BMW used different levers in different 3-series models for various reason such as the different tranmissions. The trick is knowing what lever to swap in to your car to reduce the shift throw. For an E30 or E36 318, 323 or 325 you can use a Z3 1.9L lever to get a 29% reduction in shift throw or you can use a 328/M3 lever to get a 33% reduction. There are about a million used 328/M3 levers out there because so many 328/M3 owners have upgraded. BMW no longer sells new M3/328 levers so if you want one you've got to buy it used, expect to pay £15. A new Z3 1.9L is £32 at the dealer. Some 318's have a damnpening ring attached to the driveshaft that may contact the selector rod when you install a different shift lever. If so you'll need to bend the selector rod slightly to clear it. No biggie, it's easy to do. For a 328 or a M3, a stock M-Roadster lever will give you a 35% reduction in shift throw and will run you £32 at the dealer. The only issue is that the M-Roadster lever does not have the same "bend" to it that the other levers do. If you don't bend the lever then the knob position will be a little farther foward and to the right of normal. | | | 10-16-2006, 03:52 AM | #2 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manassas, VA Posts: 4,129 | Was this a cut and paste? I don't agree with the part about bending the shift lever. Quote: Originally Posted by ipswich318ti To all you guys thinking of buying a short shift kit here is some info for you the Z3M SSK here's the part numbers - 25.11.7.527.254 = Shift lever £38 x1 - 25.11.1.220.600 = Shift lever bearing £5.70 x1 - 25.11.1.220.439 = Spacer ring £0.14 x 4 (in case you lose 2) - 25.11.1.220.379 = Circlip £0.28 x2 (in case one is lost) The shift lever does need to be bent slightly before fitting This will be of help to when you come to fit, Though the part numbers above are the ones you need, as some have been superseeded since that write up. http://www.understeer.com/shiftlever.shtml BMW used different levers in different 3-series models for various reason such as the different tranmissions. The trick is knowing what lever to swap in to your car to reduce the shift throw. For an E30 or E36 318, 323 or 325 you can use a Z3 1.9L lever to get a 29% reduction in shift throw or you can use a 328/M3 lever to get a 33% reduction. There are about a million used 328/M3 levers out there because so many 328/M3 owners have upgraded. BMW no longer sells new M3/328 levers so if you want one you've got to buy it used, expect to pay £15. A new Z3 1.9L is £32 at the dealer. Some 318's have a damnpening ring attached to the driveshaft that may contact the selector rod when you install a different shift lever. If so you'll need to bend the selector rod slightly to clear it. No biggie, it's easy to do. For a 328 or a M3, a stock M-Roadster lever will give you a 35% reduction in shift throw and will run you £32 at the dealer. The only issue is that the M-Roadster lever does not have the same "bend" to it that the other levers do. If you don't bend the lever then the knob position will be a little farther foward and to the right of normal. | __________________ 1998 (July) 318ti, 5-spd OEM Armrest Blaupunkt Heidelberg CD50 CD Player/Compact Drive MP3 Player Diamond Audio 5.25" rear speakers Navman ICN 530 GPS BMWALARM.COM (with comfort settings) after market alarm system Magnecor 8.5mm wires M-Z3 Shifter/Momo Knob Burlwood Dashboard Stromung Exhaust X-brace Racing Dynamics Front Strut Bar Carbonio C.A.I. 17" Rial Rims Vader Seats/Heated/Lumbar Support M-tech Steering Wheel/Front Sway Bar/Front & Rear Bumper Depos/w 6500K Angel Eyes/6000K HIDs Clear Corners M3 Mirrors UUC Light Weight Flywheel/M5 Clutch/M3 Clutch Slave E28 3.46 LSD/Mcoupe Cover/E30 Flanges & Halfshafts UUC S.S. Brake/Clutch Lines Hartge Roof Spoiler BavAuto Springs Bilstein Sport Struts/Shocks E46 M3 Rear Shock Mounts SPC Front Camber Kit Reiger Hatch Spoiler BavAuto Rear Camber Kit Dinan Stage II Software Turner Rear Sway Bar Reinforcements BMW E46 Auto dimming mirror with Clown Nose alarm Engine Compartment Light Heated Wiper Fluid Retrofit OEM Fire Extinguisher Da'lan Trailer Hitch Rear Sun Shade OEM Fog Light Retrofit H & R MZ3 Rear Sway Bar/ UUC Adjustable End Links Cruise Control Retrofit On Board Computer Retrofit M3 twistie style side skirts Carbon Fiber Hood | | | 10-16-2006, 04:06 AM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: 43609 Posts: 3,425 | Ive heard this bending thing in others places on the net and forums, i believe its true and documented. __________________ 1995 Hellrot Clubsport 318ti -Gone 1996 Schwartz II Sport 357ti - 5.7L V8 LS1/6 1997 Moregrun Metallic 318ti - Gone 1998 Schwartz II sport 318ti - M50TUB25/5 | | | 10-16-2006, 04:08 AM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manassas, VA Posts: 4,129 | I did this install myself, didn't bend the shift lever, and the lever sits dead center on my car. Quote: Originally Posted by Bluebimma Ive heard this bending thing in others places on the net and forums, i believe its true and documented. | __________________ 1998 (July) 318ti, 5-spd OEM Armrest Blaupunkt Heidelberg CD50 CD Player/Compact Drive MP3 Player Diamond Audio 5.25" rear speakers Navman ICN 530 GPS BMWALARM.COM (with comfort settings) after market alarm system Magnecor 8.5mm wires M-Z3 Shifter/Momo Knob Burlwood Dashboard Stromung Exhaust X-brace Racing Dynamics Front Strut Bar Carbonio C.A.I. 17" Rial Rims Vader Seats/Heated/Lumbar Support M-tech Steering Wheel/Front Sway Bar/Front & Rear Bumper Depos/w 6500K Angel Eyes/6000K HIDs Clear Corners M3 Mirrors UUC Light Weight Flywheel/M5 Clutch/M3 Clutch Slave E28 3.46 LSD/Mcoupe Cover/E30 Flanges & Halfshafts UUC S.S. Brake/Clutch Lines Hartge Roof Spoiler BavAuto Springs Bilstein Sport Struts/Shocks E46 M3 Rear Shock Mounts SPC Front Camber Kit Reiger Hatch Spoiler BavAuto Rear Camber Kit Dinan Stage II Software Turner Rear Sway Bar Reinforcements BMW E46 Auto dimming mirror with Clown Nose alarm Engine Compartment Light Heated Wiper Fluid Retrofit OEM Fire Extinguisher Da'lan Trailer Hitch Rear Sun Shade OEM Fog Light Retrofit H & R MZ3 Rear Sway Bar/ UUC Adjustable End Links Cruise Control Retrofit On Board Computer Retrofit M3 twistie style side skirts Carbon Fiber Hood | | | 10-16-2006, 09:13 AM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ipswich Posts: 656 | yes was off the e36 forum thought it would be of interest to u there are some on there who have fitted it and if they did not bend it it sat to the right and a bit high like near 5th i dont know my self yet as im only getting the parts to do it this week then i can tell u but they do say it shortens it a hell of a lot | | | 10-16-2006, 12:10 PM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manassas, VA Posts: 4,129 | Let me elaborate. The shifter will be off center, if you don't make adjustments. Since the instructions say to bend the selector rod and the shifter, why not accomplish both by bending only the selector rod. Bending the shifter isn't easy, bending the selector rod is. Put in the shifter as is, put in the selector rod as is. See where the selector rod hits the damping ring of the drive shaft, make a bend. Then see if it sits center. If not, bend the SELECTOR ROD to get the shifter centered. Quote: Originally Posted by ipswich318ti yes was off the e36 forum thought it would be of interest to u there are some on there who have fitted it and if they did not bend it it sat to the right and a bit high like near 5th i dont know my self yet as im only getting the parts to do it this week then i can tell u but they do say it shortens it a hell of a lot | __________________ 1998 (July) 318ti, 5-spd OEM Armrest Blaupunkt Heidelberg CD50 CD Player/Compact Drive MP3 Player Diamond Audio 5.25" rear speakers Navman ICN 530 GPS BMWALARM.COM (with comfort settings) after market alarm system Magnecor 8.5mm wires M-Z3 Shifter/Momo Knob Burlwood Dashboard Stromung Exhaust X-brace Racing Dynamics Front Strut Bar Carbonio C.A.I. 17" Rial Rims Vader Seats/Heated/Lumbar Support M-tech Steering Wheel/Front Sway Bar/Front & Rear Bumper Depos/w 6500K Angel Eyes/6000K HIDs Clear Corners M3 Mirrors UUC Light Weight Flywheel/M5 Clutch/M3 Clutch Slave E28 3.46 LSD/Mcoupe Cover/E30 Flanges & Halfshafts UUC S.S. Brake/Clutch Lines Hartge Roof Spoiler BavAuto Springs Bilstein Sport Struts/Shocks E46 M3 Rear Shock Mounts SPC Front Camber Kit Reiger Hatch Spoiler BavAuto Rear Camber Kit Dinan Stage II Software Turner Rear Sway Bar Reinforcements BMW E46 Auto dimming mirror with Clown Nose alarm Engine Compartment Light Heated Wiper Fluid Retrofit OEM Fire Extinguisher Da'lan Trailer Hitch Rear Sun Shade OEM Fog Light Retrofit H & R MZ3 Rear Sway Bar/ UUC Adjustable End Links Cruise Control Retrofit On Board Computer Retrofit M3 twistie style side skirts Carbon Fiber Hood | | | 10-16-2006, 01:49 PM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ipswich Posts: 656 | thank u mate do u notice the difference and have u got the normal one or the m one | | | 10-16-2006, 03:06 PM | #8 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manassas, VA Posts: 4,129 | I have the MZ3, and it makes a huge difference. It also feels solid, with no sloppiness between gears. Neutral Second gear. Third gear Quote: Originally Posted by ipswich318ti thank u mate do u notice the difference and have u got the normal one or the m one | __________________ 1998 (July) 318ti, 5-spd OEM Armrest Blaupunkt Heidelberg CD50 CD Player/Compact Drive MP3 Player Diamond Audio 5.25" rear speakers Navman ICN 530 GPS BMWALARM.COM (with comfort settings) after market alarm system Magnecor 8.5mm wires M-Z3 Shifter/Momo Knob Burlwood Dashboard Stromung Exhaust X-brace Racing Dynamics Front Strut Bar Carbonio C.A.I. 17" Rial Rims Vader Seats/Heated/Lumbar Support M-tech Steering Wheel/Front Sway Bar/Front & Rear Bumper Depos/w 6500K Angel Eyes/6000K HIDs Clear Corners M3 Mirrors UUC Light Weight Flywheel/M5 Clutch/M3 Clutch Slave E28 3.46 LSD/Mcoupe Cover/E30 Flanges & Halfshafts UUC S.S. Brake/Clutch Lines Hartge Roof Spoiler BavAuto Springs Bilstein Sport Struts/Shocks E46 M3 Rear Shock Mounts SPC Front Camber Kit Reiger Hatch Spoiler BavAuto Rear Camber Kit Dinan Stage II Software Turner Rear Sway Bar Reinforcements BMW E46 Auto dimming mirror with Clown Nose alarm Engine Compartment Light Heated Wiper Fluid Retrofit OEM Fire Extinguisher Da'lan Trailer Hitch Rear Sun Shade OEM Fog Light Retrofit H & R MZ3 Rear Sway Bar/ UUC Adjustable End Links Cruise Control Retrofit On Board Computer Retrofit M3 twistie style side skirts Carbon Fiber Hood | | | 10-16-2006, 09:55 PM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ipswich Posts: 656 | found this This product is 100% brand new and has never been installed on or used. BMW E36 E30 E39 E46 M3 Short quick shifter. Made from T-6061 billet aluminum and polish finished. Roller bearings means this product will last a long long time even when vehicle is driven hard. This item will reduce your gear shift by 40%. Professional installation is recommended, no installation instructions. £19.99 Postage costs: £9.99 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-E36-E46-E3...QQcmdZViewItem | | | 10-16-2006, 09:57 PM | #10 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Portland Or Posts: 2,666 | Notice this part does not have the locking groove to hold your shift knob on? It would require one of the fancy M style collet or set screw locked shift knobs... Looks nice otherwise... Dave __________________ Dave - PDX 1995 318ti - Active Black and Tan. 2005 330xi - Mtech 1 - 6spd - Orient Blue/Black | | | 10-16-2006, 10:00 PM | #11 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manassas, VA Posts: 4,129 | Unless my eyes are fooling me, this shifter looks very short on the bottom of the pivot point. That means the upper portion will have a long throw. Can't see how this reduces anything. That is unless the blue piece slides up the handle. Quote: Originally Posted by ipswich318ti found this This product is 100% brand new and has never been installed on or used. BMW E36 E30 E39 E46 M3 Short quick shifter. Made from T-6061 billet aluminum and polish finished. Roller bearings means this product will last a long long time even when vehicle is driven hard. This item will reduce your gear shift by 40%. Professional installation is recommended, no installation instructions. £19.99 Postage costs: £9.99 | __________________ 1998 (July) 318ti, 5-spd OEM Armrest Blaupunkt Heidelberg CD50 CD Player/Compact Drive MP3 Player Diamond Audio 5.25" rear speakers Navman ICN 530 GPS BMWALARM.COM (with comfort settings) after market alarm system Magnecor 8.5mm wires M-Z3 Shifter/Momo Knob Burlwood Dashboard Stromung Exhaust X-brace Racing Dynamics Front Strut Bar Carbonio C.A.I. 17" Rial Rims Vader Seats/Heated/Lumbar Support M-tech Steering Wheel/Front Sway Bar/Front & Rear Bumper Depos/w 6500K Angel Eyes/6000K HIDs Clear Corners M3 Mirrors UUC Light Weight Flywheel/M5 Clutch/M3 Clutch Slave E28 3.46 LSD/Mcoupe Cover/E30 Flanges & Halfshafts UUC S.S. Brake/Clutch Lines Hartge Roof Spoiler BavAuto Springs Bilstein Sport Struts/Shocks E46 M3 Rear Shock Mounts SPC Front Camber Kit Reiger Hatch Spoiler BavAuto Rear Camber Kit Dinan Stage II Software Turner Rear Sway Bar Reinforcements BMW E46 Auto dimming mirror with Clown Nose alarm Engine Compartment Light Heated Wiper Fluid Retrofit OEM Fire Extinguisher Da'lan Trailer Hitch Rear Sun Shade OEM Fog Light Retrofit H & R MZ3 Rear Sway Bar/ UUC Adjustable End Links Cruise Control Retrofit On Board Computer Retrofit M3 twistie style side skirts Carbon Fiber Hood | | | 11-13-2006, 01:40 PM | #12 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: lancashire, england Posts: 300 | tried this "cheap" shifter mod, what a load of bother. i've just wasted £37. i did bend the shifter rod but still couldnt select 1st or 2nd. i dont like ebay but i'm buying that kit above. | | | 11-13-2006, 02:55 PM | #13 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 885 | Quote: Originally Posted by ipswich318ti found this This product is 100% brand new and has never been installed on or used. BMW E36 E30 E39 E46 M3 Short quick shifter. Made from T-6061 billet aluminum and polish finished. Roller bearings means this product will last a long long time even when vehicle is driven hard. This item will reduce your gear shift by 40%. Professional installation is recommended, no installation instructions. £19.99 Postage costs: £9.99 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-E36-E46-E3...QQcmdZViewItem | I have those shifter and is the best to me, first i use a ///m one but feel softly i foud this one on ebay (the blue) and i buy it first i look the same, the under part is too short but is because the shifter have the pivot point upper than stock, so with those metod the sifting poins are close and the end of shifter not touch the any other part under the car and the long of the shifter is like oem __________________ BMW...MY NEW TOY Mods: Some plastic parts, ///M Wheels and me | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |