 » Site Navigation | | | | » Recent Threads | | | |  |  |  |  06-18-2012, 08:44 PM | #1 | | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 252 |  M3 power steering cooler/return pipe
Has anyone ever tried to use a M3 power steering cooler/return pipe on their ti? The cooler part of the pipe seams to be about twice as long on the M3. The seals for the banjo bolt at the rack are the same part #, and it looks like it would mount in the same position as the standard pipe. I plan on doing a p/s refresh here in a week or two and was thinking about swaping my current return line for the M3 verison. What do you guys think? __________________ 1996 318ti base: m44, 5 spd, lsd - 18x8 bremmer kraft wheels w/sumitumo tires 225/40R18 & bmw locking lug studs, 10mm spacers in rear, halo headlights, cold air intake, koni str.t struts and shocks w/mounts, h&r sport springs, serp belts, control arm & tie rod kits, front sway bar links, JVC kd-x50bt headunit w/ipod hook up in the glove box, alpine sps-500(front and rear), jl audio 10" powerwedge max, jl audio 250.1 amp, motor mounts, fuel filter, passenger side window motor, drivers lower window run, muffler hanger kit, various interior bulbs, left door striker/ajar switch, lower hood latches, changed from gray vinal to black leather shift and parking brake boots, m3 weighted shift knob, ngk-r spark plugs, magnecor spark plug wires(blue),new cabin micro-filters,new headliner & a-pillar mouldings, 5w20 synth-blend oil and filter, BG Ultra Guard syn. rear end fluid & ls additive, BG Syncro Shift II syn. manual trans fluids, stainless steel braided brake lines and dot 4 fluid, extra brake light mod, new p/s reservoir and rubber hoses
need to do - fix door panels, paint job, MORE MONEY!!  |  |  | | 06-18-2012, 10:56 PM | #2 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,464 |
I've thought the same thing many times... There is a forum member here (eurohb) that has the M3 cooler line and since I believe that other than the gear ratio, all E36 steering racks are pretty much interchangeable, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work w/o modification.
The price of the M3 cooler line, however, is almost double that of the ti cooler line. | | | | | 06-18-2012, 11:17 PM | #3 | | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 252 |
Thanks for the reply. I can get one from my local dealer for $97, don't really want to spend that kind of money though. I am going to see if I can source one out of a salvage yard first. __________________ 1996 318ti base: m44, 5 spd, lsd - 18x8 bremmer kraft wheels w/sumitumo tires 225/40R18 & bmw locking lug studs, 10mm spacers in rear, halo headlights, cold air intake, koni str.t struts and shocks w/mounts, h&r sport springs, serp belts, control arm & tie rod kits, front sway bar links, JVC kd-x50bt headunit w/ipod hook up in the glove box, alpine sps-500(front and rear), jl audio 10" powerwedge max, jl audio 250.1 amp, motor mounts, fuel filter, passenger side window motor, drivers lower window run, muffler hanger kit, various interior bulbs, left door striker/ajar switch, lower hood latches, changed from gray vinal to black leather shift and parking brake boots, m3 weighted shift knob, ngk-r spark plugs, magnecor spark plug wires(blue),new cabin micro-filters,new headliner & a-pillar mouldings, 5w20 synth-blend oil and filter, BG Ultra Guard syn. rear end fluid & ls additive, BG Syncro Shift II syn. manual trans fluids, stainless steel braided brake lines and dot 4 fluid, extra brake light mod, new p/s reservoir and rubber hoses
need to do - fix door panels, paint job, MORE MONEY!! | | | | | 06-19-2012, 01:25 AM | #4 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Elizabeth City, NC Posts: 3,877 |
I bought a new 328 line for $40 and am going to put it on this weekend. It's considerably longer than the ti line too. __________________ ~Dave~
98 328ti Morea Grun slicktop
11 128i space gray slicktop
13 JGC WK2 Deep Cherry
Search | RealOEM | | | | | 06-19-2012, 03:26 AM | #5 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,464 |
Quote: Originally Posted by spidertri  I bought a new 328 line for $40 and am going to put it on this weekend. It's considerably longer than the ti line too. | Where did you find the return line for that price (I'm assuming it's the return line- rack to reservoir)? Realoem lists the '96-'99 M3 and 323/325/328 p/n's as the same, but Pelican lists a different p/n for the '95 M3 (and it's also about $50 more). | | | | | 06-19-2012, 05:32 AM | #6 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: miami Posts: 232 |
Subscribed | | | | | 06-19-2012, 01:01 PM | #7 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Elizabeth City, NC Posts: 3,877 |
It was MTC brand from ECS Tuning, not the best but cheap and hopefully the hose wont leak as much as mine currently is. I was mostly interested in the extra cooling after reading this thread. Posts by "Tommy Samuels" are pretty awesome. http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1783006 __________________ ~Dave~
98 328ti Morea Grun slicktop
11 128i space gray slicktop
13 JGC WK2 Deep Cherry
Search | RealOEM | | | | | 06-19-2012, 01:06 PM | #8 | | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 |
I still have the ti rack in my car with the S52 and all the M3 lines and it fits/mounts with no problems.
The only thing to be aware of is the possibility of the physical locations of the connections on the pump relative to the rack, as the M42/M44 both sit further back in the chassis (well, the front of the engine is further back anyway).
Other than that, I think it will be no problem at all. | | | | | 06-19-2012, 01:33 PM | #9 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Elizabeth City, NC Posts: 3,877 |
This thread is only talking about the power steering cooler not the rack itself. Cooler mounts to the rack and has a soft line that runs back to the reservoir. The soft line is notorious for leaking and can only be purchased with a new cooler piece.
Technically the return hose diameter is larger on the 328/M3 than the ti line and the 328/M3 line has a pressure reducer hose clamped in while the ti version does not. __________________ ~Dave~
98 328ti Morea Grun slicktop
11 128i space gray slicktop
13 JGC WK2 Deep Cherry
Search | RealOEM | | | | | 06-19-2012, 01:53 PM | #10 | | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 252 |
I also saw that MTC brand hose on ebay for $57, I'll have to check out the ECS Tuning site. I am now wondering if the pressure reducer that is in it will provide a different feel at the steering wheel. __________________ 1996 318ti base: m44, 5 spd, lsd - 18x8 bremmer kraft wheels w/sumitumo tires 225/40R18 & bmw locking lug studs, 10mm spacers in rear, halo headlights, cold air intake, koni str.t struts and shocks w/mounts, h&r sport springs, serp belts, control arm & tie rod kits, front sway bar links, JVC kd-x50bt headunit w/ipod hook up in the glove box, alpine sps-500(front and rear), jl audio 10" powerwedge max, jl audio 250.1 amp, motor mounts, fuel filter, passenger side window motor, drivers lower window run, muffler hanger kit, various interior bulbs, left door striker/ajar switch, lower hood latches, changed from gray vinal to black leather shift and parking brake boots, m3 weighted shift knob, ngk-r spark plugs, magnecor spark plug wires(blue),new cabin micro-filters,new headliner & a-pillar mouldings, 5w20 synth-blend oil and filter, BG Ultra Guard syn. rear end fluid & ls additive, BG Syncro Shift II syn. manual trans fluids, stainless steel braided brake lines and dot 4 fluid, extra brake light mod, new p/s reservoir and rubber hoses
need to do - fix door panels, paint job, MORE MONEY!! | | | | | 06-27-2012, 01:38 PM | #11 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Elizabeth City, NC Posts: 3,877 |
I attempted to install the MTC pipe the other day, don't even bother ordering one. It didn't fit at all. I could have forced it to fit but I really had to bend it to do that and I didn't feel confident that it would last very long.
I'd imagine that a better quality version would fit fine, the MTC just seemed like a poor copy after I compared it to my stock ti pipe.
Anyway, I've learned my lesson with MTC, won't be buying any more of those parts. __________________ ~Dave~
98 328ti Morea Grun slicktop
11 128i space gray slicktop
13 JGC WK2 Deep Cherry
Search | RealOEM | | | | | 06-27-2012, 07:30 PM | #12 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,464 |
Quote: Originally Posted by spidertri The soft line is notorious for leaking and can only be purchased with a new cooler piece. | I noticed this when I was flushing my P/S system last weekend- I ended up just clipping about 1/2" from the end of the soft line so that the connection would seal better with the new reservoir. 1/2" is about all the slack that you get in that line- the hose is now about maxed out, but not overly so (there is no tension on the hose, but not really any slack either). So far, so good... | | | | | 06-27-2012, 07:46 PM | #13 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Elizabeth City, NC Posts: 3,877 |
I went to NAPA and got a foot of H1946 hose for about $4. It is transmission oil hose, 1/2" ID, fit on there great with a couple of hose clamps. __________________ ~Dave~
98 328ti Morea Grun slicktop
11 128i space gray slicktop
13 JGC WK2 Deep Cherry
Search | RealOEM | | | | | 06-28-2012, 02:36 AM | #14 | | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 252 |
Quote: Originally Posted by spidertri I attempted to install the MTC pipe the other day, don't even bother ordering one. It didn't fit at all. I could have forced it to fit but I really had to bend it to do that and I didn't feel confident that it would last very long. | Well, that sucks. Hope you can get your money back on the pipe. __________________ 1996 318ti base: m44, 5 spd, lsd - 18x8 bremmer kraft wheels w/sumitumo tires 225/40R18 & bmw locking lug studs, 10mm spacers in rear, halo headlights, cold air intake, koni str.t struts and shocks w/mounts, h&r sport springs, serp belts, control arm & tie rod kits, front sway bar links, JVC kd-x50bt headunit w/ipod hook up in the glove box, alpine sps-500(front and rear), jl audio 10" powerwedge max, jl audio 250.1 amp, motor mounts, fuel filter, passenger side window motor, drivers lower window run, muffler hanger kit, various interior bulbs, left door striker/ajar switch, lower hood latches, changed from gray vinal to black leather shift and parking brake boots, m3 weighted shift knob, ngk-r spark plugs, magnecor spark plug wires(blue),new cabin micro-filters,new headliner & a-pillar mouldings, 5w20 synth-blend oil and filter, BG Ultra Guard syn. rear end fluid & ls additive, BG Syncro Shift II syn. manual trans fluids, stainless steel braided brake lines and dot 4 fluid, extra brake light mod, new p/s reservoir and rubber hoses
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