 » Site Navigation | | | | » Recent Threads | | | |  |  |  | |  02-02-2010, 06:37 AM | #1 | | Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: State Collage, PA Posts: 58 |  Side Dumps?
Okay, I'm sure ya'll gonna chew on me about it, but It's something I like on Most vehicles, and something not too common on a car, let alone a BMW, above all a 318ti...
Was thinking about running pipes out either side of the car infront of the tire...
Question is... is there anything I should be aware of... eg: gaslines, brakelines, etc. any custom fab aside from piping ? as far as muffler would go what maybe my best option(s)?
Note: Done a '97 Neon R/T with side dumps using a 2 1/2in Glasspack(26in long) then upgraded to 3in piping with turbo... sweetest exhaust i've seen/heard on a Neon
Figure I'd do something WAY different, and would be a cheap alternative, untill I can afford a Stromung (If I don't get enough back from tax return)
Just an Idea, seeking thought, input, suggestions, and ideas |  |  | | 02-02-2010, 09:02 AM | #2 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Gilbert Posts: 621 |
you know your gonna get flammed for this right? who in their right mind will run side dumps on a bimmer?
and ill, for one, be disappointed if glasspacks get anywhere near a 318ti.
in all honestly i think you will ruin the car with side dumps.
dont do it, and if you dont want to spend too much money on a good exhaust go buy some piping and a bolra/flowmaster/magnaflow generic 1 in 1 out muffler and a nice ovalish tip, like the stromung, and get it welded up. will run about half as much if not less, and will sound the same if not better. no noticeable performance will come out of intake and exhaust on our cars so why spend the money? __________________
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*IF ITS FAST AND RELIABLE, ITS NOT CHEAP* | | | | | 02-02-2010, 04:28 PM | #3 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 307 |
Quote: Originally Posted by THAT318  you know your gonna get flammed for this right? who in their right mind will run side dumps on a bimmer?
and ill, for one, be disappointed if glasspacks get anywhere near a 318ti.
in all honestly i think you will ruin the car with side dumps.
dont do it, and if you dont want to spend too much money on a good exhaust go buy some piping and a bolra/flowmaster/magnaflow generic 1 in 1 out muffler and a nice ovalish tip, like the stromung, and get it welded up. will run about half as much if not less, and will sound the same if not better. no noticeable performance will come out of intake and exhaust on our cars so why spend the money? | Agreed! | | | | | 02-02-2010, 04:59 PM | #4 | | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 2,525 |
Who would do it on a BMW? I see them all the time at the track. Less weight because of less piping and less restriction. Pretty common for people to want to do track mods to their street cars.
Only thing to be aware of is the gas/brake lines run just inside of the frame rail on the driver side. So in reality, I wouldn't do dual side dumps, you don't need that much output. Just do a single dump on the passenger side. That is what I have usually seen. This way you don't have to worry about routing any exhaust around gas lines, or under the driveline.
I would also think twice about doing 2.5" piping on the Ti, again, doesn't need that big of an exhaust, and your low end torque will probably suffer to much. 2 or 2.25 at the most without some sort of FI. | | | | | 02-02-2010, 05:09 PM | #5 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 307 |
I agree, I'm thinking about running my wastegate dump tube out the bottom of my right front fender. aka screamer pipe.
I know from experience that the TI is kinda picky about it's exhaust size and length for the optimal sound. Go too short, it's raspy, eliminate the cat, raspy.. too large diameter... raspy!!!
Race cars do it, but they don't care about creature comforts *daily drivability* I'm sure the exhaust would make lots of clunks, rattles etc if not done properly seeing that BMW doesn't use any sort of flex pipe in it's exhaust system.
Do whatever you want, It could be done well, but I know for a fact it could be screwed up too!!! You don't want to have that happen. | | | | | 02-02-2010, 05:11 PM | #6 | | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Raleigh/Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,233 |
would sound like ass on a 4cyl.
I had one on my 6cyl ti but was too loud for daily driving, switched to a real exhaust. __________________ -Jeff
 | | | | | 02-02-2010, 06:40 PM | #7 | | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: asdfasdf Posts: 10,002 |
you know the car won't be street legal like that, right? your exhaust must exit behind "any operable windows" and that includes the vent windows in the back, could be cool on some kind of track rat but not so much on a street car | | | | | 02-02-2010, 07:35 PM | #8 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Gilbert Posts: 621 |
Quote: Originally Posted by tiFreak you know the car won't be street legal like that, right? your exhaust must exit behind "any operable windows" and that includes the vent windows in the back, could be cool on some kind of track rat but not so much on a street car | didnt know all that, but i think we established that dumps wont look/sound good, nor will they benefit performance. __________________
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*IF ITS FAST AND RELIABLE, ITS NOT CHEAP* | | | | | 02-04-2010, 10:23 AM | #9 | | Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: State Collage, PA Posts: 58 |
Quote: Originally Posted by tiFreak you know the car won't be street legal like that, right? your exhaust must exit behind "any operable windows" and that includes the vent windows in the back, could be cool on some kind of track rat but not so much on a street car | 1. This is the response I was lookin for lol 2. I knew I was gonna get flamed... but Just courious... 3. GlassPacks will never touch one of my vehicles again... had a bad expirence with one... 4. Given alot of thought... might wait till income taxes for a Stromung or a Eisenmann 5. Minor OCD... I appreciate the thought guys | | | | | 02-05-2010, 03:36 AM | #10 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Gilbert Posts: 621 |
BORLA will run you half as much and sounds the same! lol
buy the borla mufler and tip then have a muffler shop mount it up for you.
if you walk into a mom and pop muffler shop you can get the pipes cheap, and deff dont go bigger than 2.25 __________________
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*IF ITS FAST AND RELIABLE, ITS NOT CHEAP* | | | | | 02-05-2010, 06:07 AM | #11 | | Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: State Collage, PA Posts: 58 |
Really? I priced a borla at a local shop... almost $800... | | | | | 02-05-2010, 06:19 AM | #12 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: norcal - 94590 Posts: 3,186 |
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/1586373456.html Well it's not a ti, but here's side dumps on an e34... __________________ James 95 active w/leather interior and sport interior conversion, Vaders, full M-Tech exterior conversion. Now m50 swapped* Eibach sway bars, D2 Coilovers, Depo's w/AE's, blacked-out sides and grills, LeatherZ console and door armrests, 1 series starter button mod, and custom finished Style 5's <--- in this color! Named "Roddy":  *M50 6 cyl. swap with fan delete, S50 cams and chip, AFE stage 2 intake, M3 clutch and 11.5 lb Fidanza flywheel, 3.15LSD, battery relocated to rear and complete custom exhaust. Sweet!  97 318ti sport, Alaska Blue, Contours, coilovers, Dove Vaders and custom black/grey interior named "Max" 95 318ti Active in Cosmos, S50 swap in progress... named "Pit" SUPPORT 318ti.org! CLICK THE LINK ABOVE! Hosting a forum like this is not free. 318ti.org is one of the best BMW forums on the web because it is member supported, not vendor supported. The cost to become a Supporter is a nominal $10.00... A YEAR! DO IT! NOW! | | | | | 02-05-2010, 06:27 AM | #13 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Gilbert Posts: 621 |
call intense power, 480 635 8888. im sure they have better pricing for just the muffler.
and you probably got quoted on a full borla setup. find yourself a muffler and a tip, then take it to a muffler shop have them weld it up, they sell the piping for pretty cheap if you walk in with cash. __________________
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*IF ITS FAST AND RELIABLE, ITS NOT CHEAP* | | | | | 02-05-2010, 06:43 AM | #14 | | Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: State Collage, PA Posts: 58 |
I'll deff look into it...
Still stuck on the Stromung... or Eisenmann
I don't normally go cheap when it comes to cars...
Lol I'm like a woman with Shopping, shoes, etc(too much to list) when it comes to my Cars and Electronics... | | | | | 02-05-2010, 07:44 AM | #15 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Gilbert Posts: 621 |
ok, but its a waste of money. my friend just bought a magnaflow muffler and tip for 90 bucks and bought piping for about 30 and had his friend weld it up to his 1.8t golf. it doesnt sound too bad. __________________
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