» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | | | 1999 M3 Swap 09-07-2023 10:10 PM 06-01-2024 03:04 PM 7 Replies, 429,836 Views | | | | | | | 04-27-2005, 04:42 PM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pomfret Ct Posts: 277 | Starting the Turbo Build I am starting a custom turbo project on my 95 BM 318ti. I was blessed with a m42 with stronger internals. Here's the plan This summer -turbo placement and manifold building (have a spare stock manifold to work with) -dedcide which turbo is in better shape and mount it. -Run oil lines and tap drain line. -link the rear exhaust into the turbo (already have a flex pipe i put in my custom cat back) -plumb in RRFPR (rising rate fuel pressure reg) -mount a front mount intercooler (hopfully behind the kidney grills) -plumb it all in. -use a BOV from friends MR2 turbo (easily can hold the boost i'll be running. -Plumb in a in car boost controller 5 psi normal and max 8 psi -boost guage and oil pressure guage install hoping for about 180-190hp at the wheels 200-210hp crank under 8 psi winter -cars coming off the road -new clutch -thick metal head gasket from www.VACmotorsports.com -pcIII injector controler -30 lbs injectors -will up the max boost to about 10 or 12 psi I know i wish i had seen someone do this and post pics about it, so i'm going to update the post through the project. -Nate- | | | 04-27-2005, 07:02 PM | #2 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: madison, WI Posts: 402 | Quote: Originally Posted by needle332rur I am starting a custom turbo project on my 95 BM 318ti. I was blessed with a m42 with stronger internals. Here's the plan This summer -turbo placement and manifold building (have a spare stock manifold to work with) -dedcide which turbo is in better shape and mount it. -Run oil lines and tap drain line. -link the rear exhaust into the turbo (already have a flex pipe i put in my custom cat back) -plumb in RRFPR (rising rate fuel pressure reg) -mount a front mount intercooler (hopfully behind the kidney grills) -plumb it all in. -use a BOV from friends MR2 turbo (easily can hold the boost i'll be running. -Plumb in a in car boost controller 5 psi normal and max 8 psi -boost guage and oil pressure guage install hoping for about 180-190hp at the wheels 200-210hp crank under 8 psi winter -cars coming off the road -new clutch -thick metal head gasket from www.VACmotorsports.com -pcIII injector controler -30 lbs injectors -will up the max boost to about 10 or 12 psi I know i wish i had seen someone do this and post pics about it, so i'm going to update the post through the project. -Nate- | sweet, what are the turbo's ariginally off of and what size are they? For which ever you choose to go with I would definitelly recommend a rebuild of the turbo. __________________ Mods: clear turn signals, Silverstar headlight bulbs, k&N custom CAI, removed A/C, lightened crank pulley, painted brakes, custom clutch stop, custom strut bar, x-brace, custom solid tranny mounts, Memphis sound system, Sachs sport clutch, B&M short shifter, lightened flywheel, redline MTL .... Emberrassing honda owners one drive at a time http://members.cardomain.com/mghockey | | | 04-27-2005, 07:15 PM | #3 | doesn't care about you. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,925 | Good luck with your turbo build. I had an EG Vtec Civic about 4 years ago and I did the same thing. It was a really good experience and a lot of fun. Recommendations: Front-mount intercooler: If you don't have one, look for one out of a Mitsu Starion or Plymouth Conquest. They are the perfect shape for this kind of project. Let me know if you need intercooler or charge piping couplers, I have a couple feet of 3" left over. Look to the Honda forums for help with this. There are an ass-load of people driving around in junkyard-turboed Civics. Try this site: http://www.gamesbbs.com/~turbosi/twinturbo.html Good luck! __________________ '99 Dinan M3 | | | 04-27-2005, 07:21 PM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: madison, WI Posts: 402 | just curious but where are you planning on mounting the turbo? and Im not sure what your planning but turbos dont like flex pipe, you can order mandral bent pieces off the internet, or do what my buddy is doin with his custom S/C setup go behind your local muffler shop and take the scraps they throw away. He found all the piping needed for his charge pipe in a dumpster. __________________ Mods: clear turn signals, Silverstar headlight bulbs, k&N custom CAI, removed A/C, lightened crank pulley, painted brakes, custom clutch stop, custom strut bar, x-brace, custom solid tranny mounts, Memphis sound system, Sachs sport clutch, B&M short shifter, lightened flywheel, redline MTL .... Emberrassing honda owners one drive at a time http://members.cardomain.com/mghockey | | | 04-27-2005, 11:04 PM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pomfret Ct Posts: 277 | Quote: Originally Posted by m44ic sweet, what are the turbo's ariginally off of and what size are they? For which ever you choose to go with I would definitelly recommend a rebuild of the turbo. | One is a old volvo t3 (it's has been rebuilt) but has good amount of use. Other is a t25 from a friends molselman kit for a six cly e30. Has about 4,000 total miles on it but has slight damage on the intake turbine. So i would want to replace that turbine. | | | 04-27-2005, 11:10 PM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pomfret Ct Posts: 277 | Quote: Originally Posted by m44ic just curious but where are you planning on mounting the turbo? and Im not sure what your planning but turbos dont like flex pipe, you can order mandral bent pieces off the internet, or do what my buddy is doin with his custom S/C setup go behind your local muffler shop and take the scraps they throw away. He found all the piping needed for his charge pipe in a dumpster. | Turbos need a section of flex pipe (on the exhaust) because of the heat and engine movement. It will go manifold to turbo to cat to flex pipe to rest of the exhaust. If you don't have a flex pipe between the turbo and the rest of the exhaust the exhaust manifold will crack. Yes i am doing mandral bend everywhere intake plumbing and the exhaust is all manderal already. O yea can't decide to mount the turbo up or down. it will have to be were the molselman kit puts it or in front of the motor. im thinking the first one because of making the down pipe will be easier. but then it would be easier to work on, having the turbo high. | | | 04-28-2005, 12:18 AM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Colyumbia S.C. Posts: 101 | Mount It Too High And You Will Bake The Paint On The Hood | | | 04-28-2005, 01:58 PM | #8 | doesn't care about you. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,925 | Quote: Originally Posted by BMWDRIFTER Mount It Too High And You Will Bake The Paint On The Hood | Wrap the turbo and put some Xtreme Dynamat Hood liner in and you will be fine. __________________ '99 Dinan M3 | | | 04-28-2005, 02:51 PM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: madison, WI Posts: 402 | Quote: Originally Posted by BMWDRIFTER Mount It Too High And You Will Bake The Paint On The Hood | you can also get it ceramic coated also people said it also helps build boost faster for some reason __________________ Mods: clear turn signals, Silverstar headlight bulbs, k&N custom CAI, removed A/C, lightened crank pulley, painted brakes, custom clutch stop, custom strut bar, x-brace, custom solid tranny mounts, Memphis sound system, Sachs sport clutch, B&M short shifter, lightened flywheel, redline MTL .... Emberrassing honda owners one drive at a time http://members.cardomain.com/mghockey | | | 04-28-2005, 02:53 PM | #10 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: madison, WI Posts: 402 | Quote: Originally Posted by needle332rur Turbos need a section of flex pipe (on the exhaust) because of the heat and engine movement. It will go manifold to turbo to cat to flex pipe to rest of the exhaust. If you don't have a flex pipe between the turbo and the rest of the exhaust the exhaust manifold will crack. Yes i am doing mandral bend everywhere intake plumbing and the exhaust is all manderal already. O yea can't decide to mount the turbo up or down. it will have to be were the molselman kit puts it or in front of the motor. im thinking the first one because of making the down pipe will be easier. but then it would be easier to work on, having the turbo high. | ooh, my bad I though you were talkin about the stuff thats like wire loom accept for exhuast, I understand know. __________________ Mods: clear turn signals, Silverstar headlight bulbs, k&N custom CAI, removed A/C, lightened crank pulley, painted brakes, custom clutch stop, custom strut bar, x-brace, custom solid tranny mounts, Memphis sound system, Sachs sport clutch, B&M short shifter, lightened flywheel, redline MTL .... Emberrassing honda owners one drive at a time http://members.cardomain.com/mghockey | | | 04-28-2005, 09:13 PM | #11 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Portland Or Posts: 2,666 | The higher above the oil level the turbo will fit the better. Make sure the drain has as few kinks as possible and use 1" drain hose. Under hard driving the turbo will foam the oil up to 4X its normal volume and cause a temporary blockage that will back too much oil in the bearings and cause premature failure of the seals. Also make sure the oil drain does not enter block too low so that oil doesn't push back up the pipe from hard cornering. Dave __________________ Dave - PDX 1995 318ti - Active Black and Tan. 2005 330xi - Mtech 1 - 6spd - Orient Blue/Black | | | 04-28-2005, 09:46 PM | #12 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tyler, TX Posts: 1,022 | The RRFPR may work for the time being, but I'd suggest getting a proper tune, especially since you are OBD1 (which makes it alot easier). And as far as insulating the turbo, I'd go with a turbo blanket instead of the dynamat. Dynamat will not hold up to the temps that a turbo will see. | | | 04-28-2005, 10:09 PM | #13 | doesn't care about you. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,925 | Quote: Originally Posted by GDB The RRFPR may work for the time being, but I'd suggest getting a proper tune, especially since you are OBD1 (which makes it alot easier). And as far as insulating the turbo, I'd go with a turbo blanket instead of the dynamat. Dynamat will not hold up to the temps that a turbo will see. | Right.....I wouldn't recommend wrapping your turbo with Dynamat. But Dynamat does make a hood liner that reflects heat, so you don't bake your paint. Like I said wrap your turbo with insulating wrap and use the Dynamat for your hood liner just to be safe. __________________ '99 Dinan M3 | | | 05-07-2005, 11:54 PM | #14 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pomfret Ct Posts: 277 | Update 5/7/2005 Friend gave me the diverter valve. So this save money. I really have not spent that much but im sure that will start to change real soon. I am changing my some of my seals in the tranny soon. At the same time I will be changing the clutch and the oil soaked stock tranny mounts and a few other parts while I have it on the lift. I'm also going to figure out the mounting location on the turbo that same day on the lift. It's going to be a busy day! I'll make sure to bring the camera and get some good pics of mounting locations. Here is the diverter valve.... | | | 05-13-2005, 04:11 AM | #15 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pomfret Ct Posts: 277 | look its done!! guess it's not that funny huh... | | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |