» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | looove 04-16-2024 01:18 PM 04-16-2024 01:18 PM 0 Replies, 1,014 Views | | lolita porn 04-13-2024 11:45 PM 04-13-2024 11:45 PM 0 Replies, 390 Views | lolita porn 04-13-2024 11:43 PM 04-13-2024 11:44 PM 1 Replies, 288 Views | lolita porn 04-13-2024 11:40 PM 04-13-2024 11:41 PM 1 Replies, 297 Views | lolita porn 04-13-2024 11:38 PM 04-13-2024 11:39 PM 1 Replies, 310 Views | lolita porn 04-13-2024 11:36 PM 04-13-2024 11:37 PM 1 Replies, 300 Views | lolita porn 04-13-2024 11:35 PM 04-13-2024 11:35 PM 0 Replies, 273 Views | lolita porn 04-13-2024 11:34 PM 04-13-2024 11:34 PM 0 Replies, 293 Views | lolita porn 04-13-2024 11:33 PM 04-13-2024 11:33 PM 0 Replies, 260 Views | | | | | 01-12-2004, 08:46 PM | #1 | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 5 | I just bought a 1996 318ti (which I understand has an M44) and I'm wondering what is the diff. between the M42 and the M44 engines? __________________ Shaun | | | 01-12-2004, 10:24 PM | #2 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 290 | the m42 is a 1.8 liter and uses OBD-I while the m44 is a 1.9 liter and uses OBD-II. the hp ratings are the same but the m44 has a tad more torque. as far as those differences im not sure what else there is. __________________ Vince Carknard 1995 318ti Active Hellrot, 16" 5 spoke, "Fogged" airbox mod, Stromung exhaust, Bilstein Sports, BMW sport springs, 3.73lsd, others... | | | 01-13-2004, 02:23 AM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 678 | The 95 Ti had the M42 (along with 318i/is 92-95). 96-99 318's had the M44. As mentioned, the HP is the same (@13 but the torque from the extra 100cc's moves up from 128 to 133. __________________ BostonGreen 97' w/ DASC & Technique Stage 1 software M3 front bumper. BavAuto Springs. Bilstein Sport Shocks. Xbrace. BA Short Shifter. Angel Eyes Headlights, doubled brake lights 225/50/16's Yokohama Advan S4's Panasonic 70Wx4 CD/MP3 player + 4x Alpine 6x9's rear | | | 01-13-2004, 02:06 PM | #4 | Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: england Posts: 68 | sept.1996-onwards has m44-140 bhp- torque -180-euro spec thats what it says in my manual. __________________ '97 318TI --will be supercharged!! | | | 02-14-2004, 08:46 PM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 234 | either way, both are supposedly bullet proof. __________________ | | | 02-17-2004, 11:03 PM | #6 | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 | Depends on your bullet... | | | 02-21-2004, 09:36 PM | #7 | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: uk Posts: 15 | well ive had my 1998 ti with m44 with 33000 miles and had no probs yet with regular servicing.... its wot i say abuse your motor and it will abuse your pocket !!!!!!!!! __________________ if it aint broke DONT fix it !!!!!!!!!!!! | | | 03-22-2004, 09:26 AM | #8 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Port St. Johns, Florida Posts: 2,242 | Quote: Originally Posted by grail sept.1996-onwards has m44-140 bhp- torque -180-euro spec thats what it says in my manual. | 180? 180 what? cause i have a EuroSpec M44 now? | | | 04-11-2012, 12:57 AM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,451 | Older thread, but same question: Aside from the M44 being a newer engine, displacement, OBD I vs OBD II, and a bit more torque for the M44, what other differences, advantages/disadvantages have you all experienced with your motors. I have both motors now and am curious about the practical differences. BTW, As far as M42s, I do notice the intake manifold difference between the 1991 M42 and the 1995 M42. Thanks! __________________ 1998 318ti Sport - "Cali" Schwartz II/Schwartz sport interior, Cali top 1998 318ti Sport - "Max" Schwartz II/Schwartz sport interior, S52 1997 318ti Sport - "Tiny" Schwartz II/Schwartz sport interior 1995 318ti Active - "Blanca" Alpineweib III/Schwartz leather interior Other Current Bimmers: 2006 530i / 2000 2.3L Z3 / 1997 1.9L Z3 / 1999 540it 1997 318ti Sport - "Huera" - RIP 1995 318ti Active - RIP 1995 318ti Sport - "Tiny" Sold 1994 325i Sedan - "Jade" - Sold 1991 318ic - "Bert" - Sold 1985 635csi sold 1984 533i "Max" Sold 1984 318i sold BMWCCA #160411 SUPPORT 318ti.org! CLICK THE LINK ABOVE! Hosting a forum like this is not free. 318ti.org is one of the best BMW forums on the web because it is member supported, not vendor supported. The cost to become a Supporter is a nominal $10.00... A YEAR! DO IT! NOW! | | | 04-11-2012, 01:48 AM | #10 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,464 | Having owned both, the differences that I'm aware of are: M42- 1.8L displacement, forged internals, hydraulic drive belt tensioner, crank sensor on front of crankshaft, no DISA (at least on mine, I'm told that some M42's actually had DISA), aluminum thermostat housing, thermostat separate from housing, aluminum oil filter cap. M44- 1.9L displacement, cast internals, sprung drive belt tensioner, crank sensor on rear of crankshaft, DISA, integrated plastic thermostat housing, plastic oil filter cap, plastic water outlet on rear of cylinder head, higher operating temperature than M42 (in my experience), more torque. Surely there are more differences than this, this is just off the top of my head... | | | 04-11-2012, 02:41 AM | #11 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, Ohio Posts: 868 | Heres a few more: M42 has a few flavors. The latest M42 did have DISA and also had a plastic oil flter cover. Has a double weighted forged crank. Hydraulic lifter valvetrain. AFM intake, less smog stuff, easier to mod via chip. M44 has a MAF intake. Cast single weighted crank. Roller rocker valvetrain. | | | 04-11-2012, 04:57 AM | #12 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,451 | Thanks! For my two ti's, the M42 seems to rev more easily. I don't believe there any mods on the motor. There is a aftermarket cat (Magnaflow) on this car. My M42 on my 318ic revs even more freely, but I have a lightened FW and a Magnaflow muffler on that setup. The M44 is very smooth and pulls nicely. All stock as far as I can see thus far. __________________ 1998 318ti Sport - "Cali" Schwartz II/Schwartz sport interior, Cali top 1998 318ti Sport - "Max" Schwartz II/Schwartz sport interior, S52 1997 318ti Sport - "Tiny" Schwartz II/Schwartz sport interior 1995 318ti Active - "Blanca" Alpineweib III/Schwartz leather interior Other Current Bimmers: 2006 530i / 2000 2.3L Z3 / 1997 1.9L Z3 / 1999 540it 1997 318ti Sport - "Huera" - RIP 1995 318ti Active - RIP 1995 318ti Sport - "Tiny" Sold 1994 325i Sedan - "Jade" - Sold 1991 318ic - "Bert" - Sold 1985 635csi sold 1984 533i "Max" Sold 1984 318i sold BMWCCA #160411 SUPPORT 318ti.org! CLICK THE LINK ABOVE! Hosting a forum like this is not free. 318ti.org is one of the best BMW forums on the web because it is member supported, not vendor supported. The cost to become a Supporter is a nominal $10.00... A YEAR! DO IT! NOW! | | | 04-20-2012, 10:30 PM | #13 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,451 | Anyone figure out if the M44 is any more reliable than a M42? Aside from the profile gasket and the many hoses on the M42s, mine have been very reliable. Not enough time with the M44 to know yet how it holds up. Additionally, driving my two ti's, the M42 seems to be a little more peppy, not certain if its the motor or the condition of the two cars. The M44 seemed to have a more complete and consistent maintenance schedule, but the M42 last owner was a working tech. Again, for those of you that have experienced both, what are your observations above what has already been mentioned? Thanks! __________________ 1998 318ti Sport - "Cali" Schwartz II/Schwartz sport interior, Cali top 1998 318ti Sport - "Max" Schwartz II/Schwartz sport interior, S52 1997 318ti Sport - "Tiny" Schwartz II/Schwartz sport interior 1995 318ti Active - "Blanca" Alpineweib III/Schwartz leather interior Other Current Bimmers: 2006 530i / 2000 2.3L Z3 / 1997 1.9L Z3 / 1999 540it 1997 318ti Sport - "Huera" - RIP 1995 318ti Active - RIP 1995 318ti Sport - "Tiny" Sold 1994 325i Sedan - "Jade" - Sold 1991 318ic - "Bert" - Sold 1985 635csi sold 1984 533i "Max" Sold 1984 318i sold BMWCCA #160411 SUPPORT 318ti.org! CLICK THE LINK ABOVE! Hosting a forum like this is not free. 318ti.org is one of the best BMW forums on the web because it is member supported, not vendor supported. The cost to become a Supporter is a nominal $10.00... A YEAR! DO IT! NOW! | | | 09-04-2015, 01:00 AM | #14 | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Florida Posts: 1 | Quote: Originally Posted by BlackBMWs Anyone figure out if the M44 is any more reliable than a M42? Aside from the profile gasket and the many hoses on the M42s, mine have been very reliable. Not enough time with the M44 to know yet how it holds up. Additionally, driving my two ti's, the M42 seems to be a little more peppy, not certain if its the motor or the condition of the two cars. The M44 seemed to have a more complete and consistent maintenance schedule, but the M42 last owner was a working tech. Again, for those of you that have experienced both, what are your observations above what has already been mentioned? Thanks! | hey there what observations did you get in this 3 years , just wondering because i want to get one 318ti 1995, but im not sure if 96 is better o more reliable. | | | 04-20-2016, 06:07 PM | #15 | Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Carnation Posts: 44 | Since this thread gets recycled every so often- M44 has roller rockers with lash adjusters in the pivots, M42 has 'cam on valve' with hydraulic direct acting adjusters. Neither the M52 nor M54 have the rockers- they seem to be a M44 'feature'... ...and not necessarily a bad one, either. t | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |