WTBF: DASC

[Maverix]

I'm interested in purchasing a DASC for my 1997 auto. What would I be looking at for a full kit used, with average miles? And how much would labor cost?

And who is willing to part theirs for me in the future?

[elchicano]

Good luck finding one.

[graymae]

i've been thinking about the same 4 my 96 auto.

[jgrimm]

Well I can't help you with finding a DASC...But when I was looking (6 months ago) I saw some going for 1500-3000, depending on how many miles were on them, condition, and how old they were. I ended up getting one from a guy on the site. It had about 16K on it and came with (mostly) all the parts and hoses. I got it for 2600 + shipping, but I think I paid a little too much.

If you do find one make sure to enquire about receiving EVERY hose, gasket, and piece that came with it originally. And also make sure they take pictures of the supercharger blades.....They SHOULD come with a grey teflon coating. If this coating has started to come off it will reduce the psi slightly and it will increase wear inside the super. You can get the super rebuilt but it will cost around 700$ from what I've herd.

Good luck bro.

[graymae]

hmm.. 4 those prices i rather do an engine swap.

[M-technik-3]

Originally Posted by graymae

hmm.. 4 those prices i rather do an engine swap.

Agreed. Plus if I want to add forced induction to a 6 it will be even quicker.

[jgrimm]

An engine swap would definately be sweet. But if you don't have the skills to do it yourself the labor would kill you. Plus it would probably nickel and dime you to death if you don't have evreything needed.

A dasced ti is actually quite quick and i couldn't be happier with it. Plus the sound of it is sexy as hell!

[M-technik-3]

How does the SC affect mpg of an M4X? My E30 with a M/S50 the mileage went up when I drove normal, but when you get into it, suffers as any car will.

[Maverix]

Dang, I wasn't expecting 1-3k. I thought most of them ran for like $1,300 or something. Chances are though, I'd go with a s52 swap instead, and add a supercharger to it later. This is going to take some serious saving up to do =\

[cooljess76]

Originally Posted by Maverick1225

Dang, I wasn't expecting 1-3k. I thought most of them ran for like $1,300 or something. Chances are though, I'd go with a s52 swap instead, and add a supercharger to it later. This is going to take some serious saving up to do =\

Superchargers are even more expensive for the 6cyl engines. IDK why, but they are. Pretty much, when you step up to the bigger engines, you could expect everything to be a little more expensive. A lot of people are doing M50/52 swaps with performance mods and making close to S50/52 power for a fraction of the cost. As someone mentioned before, motor swap is the way to go, but only if you are capable of doing the labor. I'll also suggest buying a complete donor vehicle as small parts add up. I've seen 325's and 328's sell for under 3 grand on craigslist. I picked up my '98 M3 for 3 grand. Besides having almost all of the parts needed, you'll have the better half of a car to part out and recover some of the costs. Even with a complete donor car, there's still a bunch of stuff that you should replace such as motor and tranny mounts, gaskets, hoses etc. So keep that in mind prior to swapping motors. Either way you look at it, expect to spend atleast 3 grand to get any kind of real power.

[tiFreak]

Originally Posted by Maverick1225

Dang, I wasn't expecting 1-3k. I thought most of them ran for like $1,300 or something.

for a used kit, that might have been true before they were discontinued, but now that Downing Atlanta stopped making them, all the people who have them know that buyers will pay more, and so the price went up

[Maverix]

Originally Posted by cooljess76

Superchargers are even more expensive for the 6cyl engines. IDK why, but they are. Pretty much, when you step up to the bigger engines, you could expect everything to be a little more expensive. A lot of people are doing M50/52 swaps with performance mods and making close to S50/52 power for a fraction of the cost. As someone mentioned before, motor swap is the way to go, but only if you are capable of doing the labor. I'll also suggest buying a complete donor vehicle as small parts add up. I've seen 325's and 328's sell for under 3 grand on craigslist. I picked up my '98 M3 for 3 grand. Besides having almost all of the parts needed, you'll have the better half of a car to part out and recover some of the costs. Even with a complete donor car, there's still a bunch of stuff that you should replace such as motor and tranny mounts, gaskets, hoses etc. So keep that in mind prior to swapping motors. Either way you look at it, expect to spend atleast 3 grand to get any kind of real power.

Well, I was planing to get round up about 3k and rake my self a damaged m3 (you'd be surprised to see how many raped m3's there are in the Car junk yards near Austin), and probably summon up another 3k for matching parts. 2k for fall back money, and probably 1k to purchase a crapped up car that I could use until the swap is complete.

I might have to wait a while before I ever actually supercharge it. Superchargers are expensive like you said, but no where near expensive as twin turbos.

Originally Posted by tiFreak

for a used kit, that might have been true before they were discontinued, but now that Downing Atlanta stopped making them, all the people who have them know that buyers will pay more, and so the price went up

Btw, I was talking to a BMW mechanic expert at my job the other day. I asked him how realistic this plan was. He told me that the ti's chassis would be to small to fit an s52. Is this true?

[cooljess76]

Originally Posted by Maverick1225

I was talking to a BMW mechanic expert at my job the other day. I asked him how realistic this plan was. He told me that the ti's chassis would be to small to fit an s52. Is this true?

In that case, I'd have to say that he isn't an expert by any means. Tell him that the 318ti's engine bay is the same as any e36 sedan including the M3. Yes, they did make M3 sedans didn't they? They came with the same engine the M3 coupes came with didn't they? Of course you'll need struts and springs with a higher rate to accommodate the heavier engine. The s52 allegedly weighs about 80lbs more than the m44, so by displacing 40lbs from the front of the vehicle to the rear, you're essentially correcting the 50/50 weight balance of the vehicle. This can be achieved by simply moving the battery to the cargo area and running a carbon hood. So if your mechanic buddy still disagrees, please feel free to refer him here as it's already been done several times with successful results.

[M-technik-3]

Originally Posted by Maverick1225

Btw, I was talking to a BMW mechanic expert at my job the other day. I asked him how realistic this plan was. He told me that the ti's chassis would be to small to fit an s52. Is this true?

I would suggest you stay away from advice from this so called expert. Besides you can make anything fit for the right $ amount.

[Maverix]

Lol, I knew it. I told him that it has been done before. Then he went on boasting about that he worked for BMW for 28 years and that he knew more than anyone on the planet. Chances are I probably wont see him again. He visited my store only once.