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Old 12-26-2005, 03:59 PM   #1
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Default Bad vacuum leak?

My 95 ti has a real loud whistle. It is on and off, but when the engine is running, if I pull the oil dipstick, the whistle stops, put it back in and whistle starts. I can hear the air pressure release when I pull the dipstick. Is this a bad vacuum leak? I thought it might have been a pulley bearing, it's that loud, but now I think it's vacuum related. Has anyone else had this problem, and if so where was the leak, or was it something more expensive than a loose hose, like a pump or something? Check engine light comes on and tells me to replace my O2 sensor (lambda for those across the pond) but it's not 6 months old.
Car also runs terrible when whistle is present.
Thanks for any help.
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Old 12-26-2005, 07:46 PM   #2
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aaahhh ... let me scan my emails from the yahoo mail list. i swear i read something possibly related to this. don't remember if it applies to the 95s or not though.
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Old 12-26-2005, 08:05 PM   #3
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found the following:

Quote:
> That's exactly what I thought. Thanks for the confirmation.
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> I've also discovered an interesting SIB: 13 04 97, January 1998,
Idle Control
> Valve Binding
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> Seems that the early version of the ICV could stick shut due to
lack of
> clearance between the valve and its housing. The fix was a new
style ICV
> implemented the same build date as my car, 1/97. The symptoms are
hard or
> failed starting and a whistling noise, which I *think* I may have
heard
> before. I'll check my part no. as soon as I can. The new one is
13 41 1 435
> 846. The old one should be 13 41 1 247 988 judging from my ETK.
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> -Mark.
Oh, my! This "whistling" might be that elusive sound I've been
tracking for two years now. Happens when the car is hot and the
throttle is blipped.
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Great, that was fast. I took the intake manifold off and checked for leaks, found nothing. I cleaned out the idle control valve and it was half closed but didn't check to see if it was stuck. Thanks for the info, maybe I can steal the icv off of my audi and try it. Thanks cali-ti, I'll post again when I figure anything out.
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Problem solved. The service guys at Suntrup BMW in St. Louis called it my hooter valve. In case anyone else has this problem here is a review of what was happening. A very loud whine (vacuum leak) was coming from somewhere around the intake manifold, the whine would stop if I took out the oil dipstick or oil fill cap off of valve cover. The car would idle very rough and I was getting the old check engine light (O2 sensor) at idle.
The problem was the crankcase valve (hooter valve), it is the black plastic piece on the spacer between the upper intake manifold and the lower intake manifold, and has the hose going around back to the valve cover. It has 2 allen head screws holding it on, very easy fix.
Just thought I'd alert everyone and actually finish a thread, and not leave the problem out there.
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Breeze, thanks for the follow-up. Glad everything got fixed!
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