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Old 03-28-2009, 07:09 PM   #16
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The downforce generated by that diffuser is noticeable as you see how steady those Brawn cars were going through the corners, against how jerky the Ferraris and others looked...
I saw that last night! I was half asleep and couldn't put 2 and 2 together. But you are right on how the Ferraris looked. They always got lose going around one of the turns (can't remember which one)..
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wow... just wow! holly crap! Good for Ross Brawn!! he is the man - kinda reminded me of the gool old days with shui!!!





someone please WAKE KIMMI THE F - UP!!!!!
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be out classed by a BRAND NEW TEAM like that!... BTW it is ROSS BRAWN and of course we all know the history of how he has pushed the interpretations of the rules through the years... Just remember the grand combo....
Not posting any spoilers just yet, just watched the race myself, but the Brawn GP team is not really new, it is the same team that was Honda. There was an article earlier in the week where they talked about the fact that they didn't do any 2008 development last year during the race season. The spent all of last year working on the 2009 car. Where as the tops teams, BMW, Ferrari, Merc, all had to continue developing the 2008 car in their chase for points.

I think they should take a cue from the NFL and have the cars glow when they are using the kers boost.
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Man, Kubica blew it...
He should have waited, he was obviously faster than Vettle.

But that was quite a performance by Button.
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Not posting any spoilers just yet, just watched the race myself, but the Brawn GP team is not really new, it is the same team that was Honda. There was an article earlier in the week where they talked about the fact that they didn't do any 2008 development last year during the race season. The spent all of last year working on the 2009 car. Where as the tops teams, BMW, Ferrari, Merc, all had to continue developing the 2008 car in their chase for points.

I think they should take a cue from the NFL and have the cars glow when they are using the kers boost.
Well,
Like any "NEW" team... they all buy the team that goes out of business to commence a new once... hence new team, Not HONDA but BRAWN GP, and Brawn actually gave up development of the 08 car mid season to dedicate all resources to the new car... and again he is the master of taking the rules to their limits and coming with designs that WORK really well... He did it with Schumi for years prior to Ferrari, then with Ferrari and now with his own team... we'll see what happens in the upcoming races cause I know for sure most teams will copy the design...

Anybody notice those weird engine tone changes?...

And Kubica!... I never expected such a bonehead move like that from him... from Hammi yes, cause he's a freaking bonehead!, but not from Kubica...
All in all there were lots of contact and boneheaded moves on the track last night!... looks like an interesting start we'll see what develops in the next few!
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Anybody notice those weird engine tone changes?...

And Kubica!... I never expected such a bonehead move like that from him... from Hammi yes, cause he's a freaking bonehead!, but not from Kubica...
All in all there were lots of contact and boneheaded moves on the track last night!... looks like an interesting start we'll see what develops in the next few!

I think the engine tone is due to the fact they are limited to 18,000rpm this year - that last 1K makes a difference I think - plus they are detuned to last 4 races...


As for Kubica - bad luck - but he is generally good - he'll bounce back!
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And Kubica!... I never expected such a bonehead move like that from him... from Hammi yes, cause he's a freaking bonehead!, but not from Kubica...
All in all there were lots of contact and boneheaded moves on the track last night!... looks like an interesting start we'll see what develops in the next few!

Ahh.. Just some Hamilton hating because he is that good. He was obviously one of the best drivers in the race. He had one of the slowest cars in qual. and practice and did a hell of a job driving that car.
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he got lucky & kept his nose clean... I got to give him that.

but he is still an a-hole

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I think the engine tone is due to the fact they are limited to 18,000rpm this year - that last 1K makes a difference I think - plus they are detuned to last 4 races...
No the tone I'm talking about was the one Mid-Acceleration were they were running in the upper RPM range and all of a sudden there was a DIP in TONE.... that went from the usual high pitch to a lower pitch, and it went low-high-low for a couple of seconds then back to normal... Even Hobbs asked what the heck it was, and I think they just figured it was due to the KERS, but weren't sure if it was...


Hey Hamilton may have some skills, but he sure ain't what he's been propped up to be!... There are many drivers out there that deserved that ride, rather than an untested rookie jumping on-board with a TOP team, then the team giving him the setup of Alonso's car for him to go out and "race"... You know who really did great.... Trulli, from the pits and finished 3rd...
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Hey Hamilton may have some skills, but he sure ain't what he's been propped up to be!... There are many drivers out there that deserved that ride, rather than an untested rookie jumping on-board with a TOP team, then the team giving him the setup of Alonso's car for him to go out and "race"... You know who really did great.... Trulli, from the pits and finished 3rd...

You mean the guy that went off track under the safety car only to later receive a 25 second penalty and get dropped way back in the pack? Yeah, great performance there...

Two years in F1 and a #1 and #2 finish... Mercedes saw something in Hamilton and went for it. Not sure why people hate on him for a decision he didn't make. He is a fast driver, you can't say it is all car. I just find it humorous how much people hate on drivers.
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Not sure why people hate on him for a decision he didn't make. He is a fast driver, you can't say it is all car. I just find it humorous how much people hate on drivers.
As in with any other sport - fan emotions are a huge part of it... some drivers & teams just appeal to you while others simply dont.

I wanted him to succeed when he first came on - I really wanted him to beat Alonso to (another primadona)... but then he turned into a real cocky a-hole.
Arrogant attitude with wheel banging bully tactics - with only a handfull of races under his belt. Turned me off - & now makes my skin crawl. In fact, I wish someone puts him in a wall head first at 200mph.

& all this coming from a die-hard Shui fan! LOL who wrote the book on this stuff - mostly due to the fact that his career begun while Prost, Senna & Mensell were duking it out hard-core every race - so he did what was common & acceptable at the time... but thats another story for another day. LOL

Its gonna be a good season.... any predictions for Sepang folks???

I say BrawnGP 1 & 2 - Ferrari 3 & 4 - Kubica 3 (Nick sux), etc...
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You know who really did great.... Trulli, from the pits and finished 3rd...
He got a penalty as he overtook Hamilton during the second safety car which put him into 4th and Hamilton upto 3rd. Both impressive drives though (with some good luck as well of course).

McLaren's my local team (bout 15 miles away) so gotta suppport them really, although good work by Brawn et al though.
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