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Is it safe to run H&R race springs on my stock(MTechnic) shocks and struts? Will also only be for a couple months untill i get new struts. Thanks guys |  |  | | 06-07-2006, 04:42 PM | #2 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Halethorpe, MD Posts: 1,028 |
Maybe not. The footnote on their website says this:
Performance aftermarket shocks or struts is highly recommended in this application.
It doesn't have the same warning for the Sport Springs. | | | | | 06-07-2006, 05:38 PM | #3 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Great White North! Posts: 701 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by Timpy Is it safe to run H&R race springs on my stock(MTechnic) shocks and struts? Will also only be for a couple months untill i get new struts. Thanks guys | It is not recommended. The Race Springs lower the car over 2" which may cause the factory struts/shocks to bottom out. Also if your not installing them yourself, you are looking at $300-$400 spent on installation which you could use towards a new set of strut/shocks. I have some overstock in Bilstein Sports from the last group buy if you're interested. I can offer you the same price including shipping. Cheers, __________________ 
Engine: 2.1L Hartge conversion (bored to 86X91mm, ported & polished head, new valves, new crank, & upgraded ECU), Supersprint SS headers, Hartge exhaust, custom cat bypass (track), KV85 wires, Bosch platinum plugs, Vitesse cf spark plug cover, Vitesse cf CAI, Samco hoses, Fiamm air horns. Drivetrain: custom ssk, Vitesse adj. clutch stop, Redline D4 ATF & 75W90. Chassis: 18x8.5 Hartge Classics on 225/40/ZR18 Direzza DZ101s, 17x8 Hartge 7 spokes on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs and 17x9 Enkei MT1-R on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs(track), Vitesse 10mm spacers with cf/billet hub extenders, Bilstein PSS9 coilovers, Hartge sway bars & strut brace, urethane offset LCABs, Vitesse rsb, billet/urethane RSMs, X-brace, ATE BBK, ATE slotted rr. rotors, Goodridge ss. lines, ATE Superblue. Exterior: Violettschwarz, Hartge lip spoiler, window spoiler, hatch spoiler & mirrors, Vitesse cf door pillars, Vitesse cf fog light blanks (track), ZKW ellipsoids, HIDs in headlights, highbeams and foglights, and much more... Performance BMW Magazine feature car March 2003 www.vitessetuning.com | | | | | 06-07-2006, 08:06 PM | #4 | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: portland, maine Posts: 23 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by H3_2.1-ti It is not recommended.
The Race Springs lower the car over 2" which may cause the factory struts/shocks to bottom out. Also if your not installing them yourself, you are looking at $300-$400 spent on installation which you could use towards a new set of strut/shocks.
I have some overstock in Bilstein Sports from the last group buy if you're interested. I can offer you the same price including shipping.
Cheers, | how much? | | | | | 06-07-2006, 08:33 PM | #5 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Great White North! Posts: 701 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by Timpy how much? | Bilstein Sport set (2 x struts, 2 x shocks); $445usd including shipping within the continental US. Cheers, __________________
Engine: 2.1L Hartge conversion (bored to 86X91mm, ported & polished head, new valves, new crank, & upgraded ECU), Supersprint SS headers, Hartge exhaust, custom cat bypass (track), KV85 wires, Bosch platinum plugs, Vitesse cf spark plug cover, Vitesse cf CAI, Samco hoses, Fiamm air horns. Drivetrain: custom ssk, Vitesse adj. clutch stop, Redline D4 ATF & 75W90. Chassis: 18x8.5 Hartge Classics on 225/40/ZR18 Direzza DZ101s, 17x8 Hartge 7 spokes on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs and 17x9 Enkei MT1-R on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs(track), Vitesse 10mm spacers with cf/billet hub extenders, Bilstein PSS9 coilovers, Hartge sway bars & strut brace, urethane offset LCABs, Vitesse rsb, billet/urethane RSMs, X-brace, ATE BBK, ATE slotted rr. rotors, Goodridge ss. lines, ATE Superblue. Exterior: Violettschwarz, Hartge lip spoiler, window spoiler, hatch spoiler & mirrors, Vitesse cf door pillars, Vitesse cf fog light blanks (track), ZKW ellipsoids, HIDs in headlights, highbeams and foglights, and much more... Performance BMW Magazine feature car March 2003 www.vitessetuning.com | | | | | 06-07-2006, 09:49 PM | #6 | | TRETEN IRGENDEINES ESELS Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 3,687 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by H3_2.1-ti Bilstein Sport set (2 x struts, 2 x shocks); $445usd including shipping within the continental US.
Cheers, | Welcome back stranger..  __________________ 98 Avus Blue 318 ti Active
clear outs all around,stealth turning signals,blue led interior lights, 35% tinted windows,K&N air filter, 12" Kenwood Sub, MTX Thunder Amp,Alpine cd changer, Leatherz Armrest,ACS Pedals/Handbrake/FloorMats & Vitesse Tuning Carbon Fiber B-Pillars/CF Spark Plug Cover, New 16" MSW Typer 14 Rims on Goodyear Triple Treds 
www.myspace.com/avusblueti | | | | | 06-07-2006, 10:38 PM | #7 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Great White North! Posts: 701 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by Tyler Welcome back stranger.. | Thanks, It's good to be back. I've been extremely busy with new projects at the shop, PSS9 installs on client's cars, working on the other shop car and I just finished fabricating custom carbon fiber kidney grill covers for the H3. Initially I was developing them to bring them to market, but I'm not sure it's feasible. I wish there was more than 24 hours in a day!  Btw, did you install the Bilstein Sports on your ti? __________________
Engine: 2.1L Hartge conversion (bored to 86X91mm, ported & polished head, new valves, new crank, & upgraded ECU), Supersprint SS headers, Hartge exhaust, custom cat bypass (track), KV85 wires, Bosch platinum plugs, Vitesse cf spark plug cover, Vitesse cf CAI, Samco hoses, Fiamm air horns. Drivetrain: custom ssk, Vitesse adj. clutch stop, Redline D4 ATF & 75W90. Chassis: 18x8.5 Hartge Classics on 225/40/ZR18 Direzza DZ101s, 17x8 Hartge 7 spokes on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs and 17x9 Enkei MT1-R on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs(track), Vitesse 10mm spacers with cf/billet hub extenders, Bilstein PSS9 coilovers, Hartge sway bars & strut brace, urethane offset LCABs, Vitesse rsb, billet/urethane RSMs, X-brace, ATE BBK, ATE slotted rr. rotors, Goodridge ss. lines, ATE Superblue. Exterior: Violettschwarz, Hartge lip spoiler, window spoiler, hatch spoiler & mirrors, Vitesse cf door pillars, Vitesse cf fog light blanks (track), ZKW ellipsoids, HIDs in headlights, highbeams and foglights, and much more... Performance BMW Magazine feature car March 2003 www.vitessetuning.com | | | | | 06-07-2006, 10:46 PM | #8 | | Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Malden, MA Posts: 672 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by H3_2.1-ti Bilstein Sport set (2 x struts, 2 x shocks); $445usd including shipping within the continental US.
Cheers, | It's been awhile hasnt it? BTW, I havent forgoten to get you the Hi-Res pics of my car with the new suspension setup. I'm just not fully there as far exterior mods go so that she can be pictured and widely viewed yet. However, I am getting there. I promise to get you the pics before the end of summer. Now back on topic, you should NEVER put race spings on stock shocks and struts. Not unless you want your car to handle like a boat on waavy waters. I do recomend that you buy the shock/strut set from H3_2.1-ti, he is very very very good with his buisness, and I highly recomend him, as do alot of other members on this board. Plus, you only want to have to take apart you whole suspension once......IMO its a pain in the ass to install, so do it once, and do it right the first time.  __________________
"Power Rules, Smooth is Fast, Late Brake if you HAVE TO, But Always get the Inside Line.......and Fear No One." | | | | | 06-07-2006, 10:51 PM | #9 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Great White North! Posts: 701 |
Juni,
Thanks for the kind words.
I'm anxious to see the new pics!
Cheers, __________________
Engine: 2.1L Hartge conversion (bored to 86X91mm, ported & polished head, new valves, new crank, & upgraded ECU), Supersprint SS headers, Hartge exhaust, custom cat bypass (track), KV85 wires, Bosch platinum plugs, Vitesse cf spark plug cover, Vitesse cf CAI, Samco hoses, Fiamm air horns. Drivetrain: custom ssk, Vitesse adj. clutch stop, Redline D4 ATF & 75W90. Chassis: 18x8.5 Hartge Classics on 225/40/ZR18 Direzza DZ101s, 17x8 Hartge 7 spokes on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs and 17x9 Enkei MT1-R on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs(track), Vitesse 10mm spacers with cf/billet hub extenders, Bilstein PSS9 coilovers, Hartge sway bars & strut brace, urethane offset LCABs, Vitesse rsb, billet/urethane RSMs, X-brace, ATE BBK, ATE slotted rr. rotors, Goodridge ss. lines, ATE Superblue. Exterior: Violettschwarz, Hartge lip spoiler, window spoiler, hatch spoiler & mirrors, Vitesse cf door pillars, Vitesse cf fog light blanks (track), ZKW ellipsoids, HIDs in headlights, highbeams and foglights, and much more... Performance BMW Magazine feature car March 2003 www.vitessetuning.com | | | | | 06-07-2006, 11:37 PM | #10 | | TRETEN IRGENDEINES ESELS Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 3,687 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by H3_2.1-ti Juni,
Thanks for the kind words.
I'm anxious to see the new pics!
Cheers, | Juni's car is in my sig before his new suspension,we got to meet up again with no rain to take a couple more. __________________ 98 Avus Blue 318 ti Active
clear outs all around,stealth turning signals,blue led interior lights, 35% tinted windows,K&N air filter, 12" Kenwood Sub, MTX Thunder Amp,Alpine cd changer, Leatherz Armrest,ACS Pedals/Handbrake/FloorMats & Vitesse Tuning Carbon Fiber B-Pillars/CF Spark Plug Cover, New 16" MSW Typer 14 Rims on Goodyear Triple Treds
www.myspace.com/avusblueti | | | | | 06-08-2006, 12:21 AM | #11 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Great White North! Posts: 701 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by Tyler Juni's car is in my sig before his new suspension,we got to meet up again with no rain to take a couple more. | C'mon Tyler share those pics! I wan'na see! __________________
Engine: 2.1L Hartge conversion (bored to 86X91mm, ported & polished head, new valves, new crank, & upgraded ECU), Supersprint SS headers, Hartge exhaust, custom cat bypass (track), KV85 wires, Bosch platinum plugs, Vitesse cf spark plug cover, Vitesse cf CAI, Samco hoses, Fiamm air horns. Drivetrain: custom ssk, Vitesse adj. clutch stop, Redline D4 ATF & 75W90. Chassis: 18x8.5 Hartge Classics on 225/40/ZR18 Direzza DZ101s, 17x8 Hartge 7 spokes on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs and 17x9 Enkei MT1-R on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs(track), Vitesse 10mm spacers with cf/billet hub extenders, Bilstein PSS9 coilovers, Hartge sway bars & strut brace, urethane offset LCABs, Vitesse rsb, billet/urethane RSMs, X-brace, ATE BBK, ATE slotted rr. rotors, Goodridge ss. lines, ATE Superblue. Exterior: Violettschwarz, Hartge lip spoiler, window spoiler, hatch spoiler & mirrors, Vitesse cf door pillars, Vitesse cf fog light blanks (track), ZKW ellipsoids, HIDs in headlights, highbeams and foglights, and much more... Performance BMW Magazine feature car March 2003 www.vitessetuning.com | | | | | 06-08-2006, 05:44 AM | #12 | | Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Malden, MA Posts: 672 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by Tyler Juni's car is in my sig before his new suspension,we got to meet up again with no rain to take a couple more. | Yea Tyler! F-in New England weather sucks donkey turds. But what can you do. Hopefully I can get you to come out to some of the meets that keep happening round here. J!m and I are pretty much always in attendance. __________________
"Power Rules, Smooth is Fast, Late Brake if you HAVE TO, But Always get the Inside Line.......and Fear No One." | | | | | 06-09-2006, 02:08 AM | #13 | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 14 |
I have H & R Sport springs (racing) on my car. I had stock wheels when i did it. No problems with rubbing at all. Increased performaces a crap load. The only bad thing is that i wear down tires so quick because the rear camber is -2.2. Thats a good setting for racing but for street you will need new tires every 8 months or so. The car is in the shop right now and is getting -1.9 in the back. Has anyone had -1.9 or higher? | | | | |
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