» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | | | | | | | 03-19-2009, 04:48 AM | #46 | Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,220 | Question for J!m I guess (or anyone who knows), Scenario. I have a 96 OBDII m44, and I find a good complete s50 conversion for sale that comes with: Swap includes: Engine Long Block(from oilpan up) W Wiring Harness 5spd Manual Transmission Alternator Starter AC Compressor Key+EWS& ECU Air Flow Meter Midpipe W Cats Stock Airbox would any native m44 modules need to be converted to OBDI since I wouldn't buy an EWS/ECU, or harness seperate from the orignal complete s50 conversion. Thanks http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-M...Q5fAccessories Cliffs: swap OBDII M44 out for OBDI EWS/ECU/Harness that comes with complete S50 swap (motor, tranny, EWS, ECU, Key, Harness,) would it bolt right up if all the OBDI junk is originally from the S50 bought. | | | 03-19-2009, 12:40 PM | #47 | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 | You may have some issues with EWS and other wiring incompatibilities, but in a nut shell, it will work OK and you will not have the EWS (Driveaway Protection) working at all when you are done. Note that the car will also not meet emisions standards for the 1996 model year; however since 96 was sort of a cross over year, you MAY be able to pull the wool over the inspector's eyes and have it tested as an OBD-I... Likely not, so I asume your state does not do emission testing. If it is a track car, no problem! | | | 03-28-2009, 04:47 PM | #48 | Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,220 | Hey Jim, I bought an OBDII m52b28 instead. It comes with all the wiring accessories. Do you have some manuals in stock? | | | 03-30-2009, 08:51 PM | #49 | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 | PM sent... | | | 11-21-2009, 01:11 AM | #50 | Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 39 | | | | 11-21-2009, 01:32 AM | #51 | NOBODY F's with the Jesus Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ventura California Posts: 7,824 | Quote: Originally Posted by tiKid | http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/pts/1464903815.html Your link was messed up, but I found it. What exactly do you mean by "legit"? Yeah, the listing looks real if that's what you're asking. However, I wouldn't even consider buying a motor from someone on the other side of the country. After shipping, tranny/harness/ecu/ews alignment & various misc components, you're looking at > $3000. Best bet is to buy a wrecked M3 locally or as close as possible. This way you'll have almost everything you need, all from the same car and most importantly you can start it up and hear it run before you buy it. | | | 11-23-2009, 10:59 PM | #52 | Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 39 | Quote: Originally Posted by cooljess76 http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/pts/1464903815.html Your link was messed up, but I found it. What exactly do you mean by "legit"? Yeah, the listing looks real if that's what you're asking. However, I wouldn't even consider buying a motor from someone on the other side of the country. After shipping, tranny/harness/ecu/ews alignment & various misc components, you're looking at > $3000. Best bet is to buy a wrecked M3 locally or as close as possible. This way you'll have almost everything you need, all from the same car and most importantly you can start it up and hear it run before you buy it. | I was just saying it looked cheap compared to the others I've seen. | | | 01-20-2010, 02:35 PM | #53 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Jax, FL Posts: 541 | First thing I noticed during my swap are the plugs that are part of the main wiring hareness. My compact has 2 round plugs, but the donor engine has 3. | | | 01-20-2010, 08:22 PM | #54 | Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,220 | Quote: Originally Posted by Shellback First thing I noticed during my swap are the plugs that are part of the main wiring hareness. My compact has 2 round plugs, but the donor engine has 3. | 1+ me too | | | 01-20-2010, 08:53 PM | #55 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: LA, Bellflower, CA Posts: 3,613 | i've always had three plugs, with the M44 ti and now the S52 ti. __________________ -Theta Chi- Float like a cadilac, sting like a BIMMER .... my socket is just too thick and won't fit in the hole! damnit! Marv's 332ti is in the werks. Stay tuned ya'll ... Check list: S52 swap, manual transmission swap, 3.25 LSD with M Coupe diff cover, SuperSprint muffler, M3 style mirrors, AFE intake, ASC delete, M50 Manifold swap, UUC strut bar, ZHP lighted knob, Vaders, M-tech interior, OEM armrest, AC Schintzer front lip, AC Schnitzer rear spoiler, Roof spoiler, 18'' rims, M3 front drilled brakes, LED interior lights, 3 spoke Euro style steering wheel, OEM roof spoiler and bike holder, Thule fairing, Euro tail lights, oil pressure guage, carbon fiber hood painted to original paint (still showing CF weaving), what's next to do...? | | | 01-20-2010, 09:19 PM | #56 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Jax, FL Posts: 541 | I'm confused. I will take another look under the hood, but I could swear I only had 2 plugs with my current setup (1998 M44). My question is, when I remove the M44, it will have 2 “female” plugs in place. Then when I install the S52, it will bring along with it 3 plugs. Once the S52 is in, I will have one extra S52 plug hanging with nowhere to plug into the 318ti electrical system. Am I supposed to also drag the entire wiring system out of the donor vehicle? Please look at image #1. That is taken from the 1997 M3. It has 3 plugs. The second image is the S52 on an engine stand, waiting to be installed in the 318ti. It obviously also has 3 plugs. That middle plug (has a white ring inside the plug) will be connected to nothing if I install it in the 318ti. | | | 01-20-2010, 11:40 PM | #57 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: norcal - 94590 Posts: 3,186 | The automatic cars and harnesses have 3 plugs... My M50 swap motor was from an auto car, and had that extra plug. When I had to source another harness, I got one from a manual, and no extra plug! Oh, and my ti came with a 5-speed manual... __________________ James 95 active w/leather interior and sport interior conversion, Vaders, full M-Tech exterior conversion. Now m50 swapped* Eibach sway bars, D2 Coilovers, Depo's w/AE's, blacked-out sides and grills, LeatherZ console and door armrests, 1 series starter button mod, and custom finished Style 5's <--- in this color! Named "Roddy": *M50 6 cyl. swap with fan delete, S50 cams and chip, AFE stage 2 intake, M3 clutch and 11.5 lb Fidanza flywheel, 3.15LSD, battery relocated to rear and complete custom exhaust. Sweet! 97 318ti sport, Alaska Blue, Contours, coilovers, Dove Vaders and custom black/grey interior named "Max" 95 318ti Active in Cosmos, S50 swap in progress... named "Pit" SUPPORT 318ti.org! CLICK THE LINK ABOVE! Hosting a forum like this is not free. 318ti.org is one of the best BMW forums on the web because it is member supported, not vendor supported. The cost to become a Supporter is a nominal $10.00... A YEAR! DO IT! NOW! | | | 01-21-2010, 02:56 AM | #58 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Jax, FL Posts: 541 | I think I found out what is wrong. Looks like the mysterious second plug actually is still there, but it must’ve fallen through its mount and resting bellow. Sorry if I jumped the gun! I know, I freaked out this early in the project, could you imagine what it’s going to be when I insert that key for the first time after the swap | | | 01-21-2010, 02:58 AM | #59 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Jax, FL Posts: 541 | more images... | | | 01-21-2010, 03:00 AM | #60 | NOBODY F's with the Jesus Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ventura California Posts: 7,824 | That's actually where that connector is supposed to be. It's attached to the ABS pump. | | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |