» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | | | | | | | | 08-14-2013, 06:59 PM | #76 | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 26 | Quote: Originally Posted by Snidly There are 4 new 318Ti Clubsport brochures on Ebay $16.94US | Hello Snidly, Thanks for the advice last fall on the eBay brochures. I purchased a few of them to go with my little gem of a car. Btw, I've had to put the car up for sale...moving overseas. It's posted on the For Sale section of this site. Cheers, happy driving! | | | 09-23-2013, 07:29 PM | #77 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 9,356 | Might as well add my newly acquired Club Sport. WBACG5328SAM53571 __________________ ...steven BMW CCA #146825 1996 BMW 328ti • 2003 MINI Cooper S • 2016 M235i www.bmwcca.org | | | 09-23-2013, 08:07 PM | #78 | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Plainfield Posts: 29 | Congrats, Stephen! That one is not in the unofficial registry I've been keeping since I bought mine. Mind telling us the important details, such as color, sunroof, LSD, etc? More and more keep popping up all the time! 34 at present whose VIN numbers I scooped up, have to be more out there! Hope you had fun at Oktoberfest, it was a lot of work for the people involved, and you were definitely one of the behind the scenes miracle workers..... Thanks! vince | | | 09-23-2013, 08:11 PM | #79 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 9,356 | Quote: Originally Posted by 318318 Congrats, Stephen! That one is not in the unofficial registry I've been keeping since I bought mine. Mind telling us the important details, such as color, sunroof, LSD, etc? More and more keep popping up all the time! 34 at present whose VIN numbers I scooped up, have to be more out there! Hope you had fun at Oktoberfest, it was a lot of work for the people involved, and you were definitely one of the behind the scenes miracle workers..... Thanks! vince | Bought from a board member. http://www.318ti.org/forum/showthread.php?t=38867 Jet Black, Red Millpoint, sunroof, LSD. People tell me they had a good time at Ofest. I barely remember it. __________________ ...steven BMW CCA #146825 1996 BMW 328ti • 2003 MINI Cooper S • 2016 M235i www.bmwcca.org | | | 09-23-2013, 08:37 PM | #80 | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Plainfield Posts: 29 | Okay, I did see that one and copied all the info, but just didn't put it on the list. Sounds like a good deal for you! Next year should be a nice drive to Colorado.... vince | | | 10-10-2013, 03:40 AM | #81 | Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 55 | I purchased a ClubSport last month from a gentlemen in Rochester, IN (very well kept / maintained). I've been enjoying this car very much, it's probably one of my favorite vehicles out of all the BMW's I've owned (03-X5 4.4i, 05-330ci ZHP, 98-M3 sedan, 08-135i, 02-X5 4.6is, 95-318ti clubsport). VIN#WBACG5329SAM53577 mileage - 97k exterior - black interior - black / red millpoint LSD, sunroof Last edited by Fast Eddie; 01-21-2014 at 07:15 AM. | | | 10-14-2013, 03:31 AM | #82 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 737 | Quote: Originally Posted by SickFinga Here are some stats for the Club Sport 200 cars built (none were built for Canada) 1st Club Sport was built on September 11 1995 (2 cars built on that day) VIN AM53293 Last Club Sport built on October 13 1995 (13 Club Sports built on that day) VIN AM53731 94 Painted in Bright Red (314) 106 Painted in Jet Black (668) There were 3 options; Sun roof, Premium sound, LSD 15 cars without sun roof. 45 cars without premium sound 86 cars without LSD | Did some research. There were 85 cars without LSD, all your other numbers are correct. The "main" run of cars started on 9/25/1995 with AM53460 and ended on 10/13/1995 with AM53731. 106 cars were Schwarz 2 94 cars were Hellrot 85 cars without LSD (47 black, 38 red) 45 cars without premium sound (27 black, 18 red) 15 cars without sunroof (8 black, 7 red) There were no cars built with none of the three options or just premium sound. Five had only the LSD and twenty-four had only the sunroof. The most common option combination was all three (LSD, sunroof, & premium sound) with 84. Edit: Car AM53487 seems to be an anomaly. Originally I hadn't scrolled all the way down the options list (it's split in two) and so I didn't see the M Sport Package option. It appears to be a US-spec Clubsport that was built for delivery to Great Britain. It includes several options not normally seen on US-spec cars (manually adjustable steering column, headlight aim control, warning triangle/first aid kit, & OBC V). I'm curious if it was originally purchased by a service member and where it is today. Quote: Originally Posted by dave45056 The question is: If there were only 200 of them made, yet the VIN numbers span 438 units, how can you be sure you have a REAL Club Sport and not a car that's within the range and been modified? I know BMW has a SA code for Club Sport... It's 768 Individual Series "Club Sport". I've just never heard of a ti with that code associated with it. | There were regular, non-Clubsport, ti's built within the Clubsport VIN range. Easiest way to tell if you have a real Clubsport is to run the VIN through a BMW VIN decoder. The car should be Schwarz 2 or Hellrot, red millpoint interior and there should be 3 particular options on the car, P337A - M Sports Package, S481A - Sports seat (not CS exclusive), and S704A - M Sports suspension (also not CS exclusive). Justin Last edited by Borg561; 10-14-2013 at 12:05 PM. Reason: correcting info | | | 10-14-2013, 02:43 PM | #83 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 9,356 | Interesting... I would have sworn there are more Red than Black Club Sports. So LSD was an option. __________________ ...steven BMW CCA #146825 1996 BMW 328ti • 2003 MINI Cooper S • 2016 M235i www.bmwcca.org | | | 10-14-2013, 06:22 PM | #84 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SF bay Posts: 183 | Quote: Originally Posted by 1996 328ti Interesting... I would have sworn there are more Red than Black Club Sports. So LSD was an option. | LSD was an option.. And some sellers state that they have it when they really dont The reason you might see more Red Clubsports is because they have a higher turnover rate. | | | 10-14-2013, 07:32 PM | #85 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 737 | Quote: Originally Posted by 1996 328ti Interesting... I would have sworn there are more Red than Black Club Sports. So LSD was an option. | I think that's partly because Red cars tend to stand out more and Black cars blend in with the crowd a bit. One interesting thing I noticed while combing the data is that the cars were not built sequentially by VIN. There were several instances where a VIN had an earlier build date than a car with a lower number VIN. Also, if anyone is interested, I can post some more stats once I get home from work this evening (cars built per day, option grouping, etc). I shoved all the data into a spreadsheet for future reference. Justin | | | 10-14-2013, 07:34 PM | #86 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SF bay Posts: 183 | Quote: Originally Posted by Borg561 I think that's partly because Red cars tend to stand out more and Black cars blend in with the crowd a bit. One interesting thing I noticed while combing the data is that the cars were not built sequentially by VIN. There were several instances where a VIN had an earlier build date than a car with a lower number VIN. Also, if anyone is interested, I can post some more stats once I get home from work this evening (cars built per day, option grouping, etc). I shoved all the data into a spreadsheet for future reference. Justin | I think I speak for all clubsport owners... YES! | | | 10-14-2013, 07:35 PM | #87 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 9,356 | Is there an absolute number of Club Sports built? __________________ ...steven BMW CCA #146825 1996 BMW 328ti • 2003 MINI Cooper S • 2016 M235i www.bmwcca.org | | | 10-14-2013, 08:53 PM | #88 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 737 | Quote: Originally Posted by erikerikerik I think I speak for all clubsport owners... YES! | I should mention that it's stats that can be determined from the build sheets. And Steve, unless there were some built after the last VIN I've found (AM53731) or with automatic trannys, it's exactly 200 built. While the first two built don't have any of the typical pre-production option codes, I imagine they were testers/press cars and am not sure if they were ever sold to the public. They were built a full two weeks before main production began, and most of the cars were built in groups, not single cars here and there. Going to run some more VINs tonight to eliminate the possibility of more cars. Justin Sent from my HTC Rezound. now Free Last edited by Borg561; 10-14-2013 at 09:24 PM. | | | 10-15-2013, 07:46 AM | #89 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 737 | So, nerdy stat time. Lowest VIN: AM53293 Highest VIN: AM53731 Most sequential VINs: 37 (AM53695-AM53731; first 21 are Black, the last 16 are Red) Fewest sequential VINS: 1 (7 different; 6 are Black, 1 Red) Options: - 85 without LSD (47 Black, 38 Red)
- 45 without premium sound (27 Black, 18 Red)
- 15 without sunroof (8 Black, 7 Red)
Option combinations: - 84 with LSD, premium sound, & sunroof (40 Black, 44 Red)
- 10 with just LSD & premium sound (8 Black, 2 Red)
- 16 with just LSD & sunroof (11 Black, 5 Red)
- 61 with just premium sound & sunroof (31 Black, 30 Red)
- 5 with just LSD (0 Black, 5 Red)
- 24 with just sunroof (16 Black, 8 Red)
- None with just premium sound or none of the three options
Build Dates: - 2 built on 9/11/1995 (1 Black, 1 Red)
- 4 built on 9/25/1995 (4 Black, 0 Red)
- 9 built on 9/26/1995 (9 Black, 0 Red)
- 7 built on 9/27/1995 (7 Black, 0 Red)
- 17 built on 9/28/1995 (7 Black, 10 Red)
- 20 built on 9/29/1995 (0 Black, 20 Red)
- 21 built on 10/4/1995 (5 Black, 16 Red)
- 23 built on 10/5/1995 (14 Black, 9 Red)
- 22 built on 10/6/1995 (4 Black, 18 Red)
- 15 built on 10/9/1995 (13 Black, 2 Red)
- 11 built on 10/10/1995 (10 Black, 1 Red)
- 12 built on 10/11/1995 (12 Black, 0 Red)
- 24 built on 10/12/1995 (18 Black, 6 Red)
- 13 built on 10/13/1995 (2 Black, 11 Red)
If anyone really wants me to get nerdy, I can break the option groups down by build date. Edit: And just because, here's the build sheet for that anomaly car. Model description: 318TI Market: USA Type: CG53 E-Code: E36 (5) Chassis: compact Steering: left Doors: 3 Engine: M42 - 1,80l (103kW) Drive: Rear-Wheel Drive (sDrive) Transmission: manuel Body Color: SCHWARZ 2 Upholstery: STOFF MILLPOINT/ROT Production date: 26.09.1995 Assembled in: München Code - Serienausstattung --- Standard Equipment S209A - Sperrdifferenzial --- Differential lock 25% S246A - Lenksäulenverstellung mechanisch --- Manually adjust. steering column S314A - Aussenspiegel / Fahrerschloss beheizt --- Door mirror / driver's lock, heated S410A - Fensterheber elektrisch vorne --- Window lifts, electric, front S465A - Durchladesystem --- Through-loading system S510A - Leuchtweitenregulierung --- Headlight aim control S520A - Nebelscheinwerfer --- Fog lights S542A - Check-Control --- Check Control S710A - M Lederlenkrad --- M leather steering wheel S853A - Sprachversion englisch --- Language version English Code - Sonderausstattung --- Optional Equipment S240A - Lenkrad Leder Airbag --- Leather steering wheel S243A - Airbag Beifahrer --- Airbag for front passenger S315A - Heckscheibenwischer --- Rear window wiper P337A - M Sportpaket --- M Sports package S401A - Schiebehebedach elektrisch --- Lift-up-and-slide-back sunroof, electric S428A - Warndreieck und Verbandstasche --- Warning triangle and first aid kit S431A - Innenspiegel automatisch abblendend --- Interior mirror with automatic-dip S441A - Raucherpaket --- Smoker package S481A - Sportsitz --- Sports seat S498A - Kopfstützen im Fond mechanisch --- Headrests, rear, mechanically adjustable S530A - Klimaanlage --- Air conditioning S534A - Klimaautomatik --- Automatic air conditioning S540A - Geschwindigkeitsregelung --- Cruise control S554A - Bordcomputer V mit Fernbedienung --- On-board computer V with remote control S669A - Radio BMW Business RDS --- Radio BMW Business RDS S676A - HiFi Lautsprechersystem --- HiFi speaker system S694A - Vorbereitung BMW 6 CD Wechsler --- Provisions for BMW 6 CD changer S704A - M Sportfahrwerk --- M Sports suspension L812A - Länderausführung England / Irland --- NATIONAL VERSION GREAT BRITAIN S818A - Batteriehauptschalter --- Battery master switch S850A - Zusätzl. Tankfüllung Export --- Additional Export tank filling S863A - Händlerverzeichnis Europa --- Retailer Directory Europe S880A - Bordliteratur englisch --- On-board vehicle literature English S925A - Versandschutzpaket --- Transport protection package Code - Information S686A - Antennen-Diversity --- Antenna-Diversity Justin Last edited by Borg561; 10-15-2013 at 08:11 AM. | | | 10-15-2013, 07:50 AM | #90 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fl Posts: 1,353 | Quote: Originally Posted by Borg561 So, nerdy stat time. Options: - 85 without LSD (47 Black, 38 Red)
- 45 without premium sound (27 Black, 18 Red)
- 15 without sunroof (8 Black, 7 Red)
Option combinations: - 84 with LSD, premium sound, & sunroof (40 Black, 44 Red)
- 10 with just LSD & premium sound (8 Black, 2 Red)
- 16 with just LSD & sunroof (11 Black, 5 Red)
- 61 with just premium sound & sunroof (31 Black, 30 Red)
- 5 with just LSD (0 Black, 5 Red)
- 24 with just sunroof (16 Black, 8 Red)
- None with just premium sound or none of the three options
Build Dates: - 2 built on 9/11/1995 (1 Black, 1 Red)
- 4 built on 9/25/1995 (4 Black, 0 Red)
- 9 built on 9/26/1995 (9 Black, 0 Red)
- 7 built on 9/27/1995 (7 Black, 0 Red)
- 17 built on 9/28/1995 (7 Black, 10 Red)
- 20 built on 9/29/1995 (0 Black, 20 Red)
- 21 built on 10/4/1995 (5 Black, 16 Red)
- 23 built on 10/5/1995 (14 Black, 9 Red)
- 22 built on 10/6/1995 (4 Black, 18 Red)
- 15 built on 10/9/1995 (13 Black, 2 Red)
- 11 built on 10/10/1995 (10 Black, 1 Red)
- 12 built on 10/11/1995 (12 Black, 0 Red)
- 24 built on 10/12/1995 (18 Black, 6 Red)
- 13 built on 10/13/1995 (2 Black, 11 Red)
If anyone really wants me to get nerdy, I can break the option groups down by build date. Justin | This is fantastic! Where are you sourcing all this information? With 2 Club Sports in the family I am very interested in however nerdy you want to get. __________________ SUPPORT 318ti.org! CLICK THE LINK ABOVE! Hosting a forum like this is not free. 318ti.org is one of the best BMW forums on the web because it is member supported, not vendor supported. The cost to become a Supporter is a nominal $10.00... A YEAR! DO IT! NOW! www.BimmerBum.com ALL NEW! 318ti Specific Parts For Sale www.facebook.com/BimmerBum BMWCCA #132203 95 318ti Club Sport 98 318ti Active S50 Swap | | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |