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When I lower my TI, won't the wheels end up angeling in more? like this / \ and wear on the inside of my tires? __________________ BMW 318ti M Body Kit, Future M3 engine swap
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It's a possibility, depends on what setup you use. After you lower your car go get an alignment to check on the angle. | | | | | 10-03-2005, 11:39 AM | #3 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portugal - Lisboa Posts: 205 |
If you lower it too much and keep the stock shocks, you'll probably end up with some camber. The front can be corrected with an aligment, but I believe to adjust the rear camber you'll need camber plates. __________________ Portuguese 318ti
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It really does depend on what you're starting with and which springs you use. Stock mine was a sport, so it was a bit lower anyway. I installed the Eibach Pro-Kit and since then I have seen slight wear on the inside edges. The alignment is as close to stock as the dealer could get it. Obviously, the lower you go, the more problems you will have with this. There are camber plates available for front and rear. As I understand it, the rear is not adjustable without using an aftermarket product. | | | | | 10-03-2005, 03:21 PM | #5 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muncie, Indiana Posts: 1,551 |
The rear is not adjustable with out an aftermarket camber kit. The lower you go the more negative camber you will have. If you do lower the car with lowering springs you must buy different shocks that can accomodate the shorter springs. Otherwise the stock shocks will be blown out quickly and have to to be replaced. | | | | | 10-03-2005, 07:53 PM | #6 | | Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: home Posts: 34 |
Mines lowered 1inch and my rear kumho's wore the inside edge within 10000 miles but ive seen other lowered compacts going through rears quicker.My fronts are wearing evenly. | | | | | 10-03-2005, 08:06 PM | #7 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,305 |
when i lowered mine I noticed a definite slant to the tires but i would follow the others' advice on how to correct it. | | | | | 10-03-2005, 08:18 PM | #8 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portugal - Lisboa Posts: 205 |
Do you also need camber plates on the front to get a correct aligment? __________________ Portuguese 318ti
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i think so but I'm not totally sure | | | | | 10-03-2005, 09:10 PM | #10 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: North Saint Paul, MN Posts: 606 |
This summer I installed BavAuto's adjustable camber kits, because I was having troubles with camber and tire wear. After it was all installed I got a proper alignment and had new tires put on and I now I have no wear issues at all and all the vibrations I had before are gone too!  __________________ '96 Alaska Blue ti w/ Supersprint cat-back exhaust...Dinan CAI & Chip...Eibach Pro-Kit Springs...Bilstein Sport shocks...BavAuto camber kit...Brembo d/s rotors...UUC SSK...Centerforce Dual Friction clutch...TMS 9lb flywheel...18 inch OZ Rims...Carbon-Fiber dash/gauge bezel...Momo Shift Knob...Indiglo gauges...Schroth Harness...ZKW's/ProLumen 6k HID...Predator Chromiums
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Quote: | Originally Posted by nick_hegel This summer I installed BavAuto's adjustable camber kits, because I was having troubles with camber and tire wear. After it was all installed I got a proper alignment and had new tires put on and I now I have no wear issues at all and all the vibrations I had before are gone too! | If you don't mind me asking how much did all the installation cost? I have been contemplating geting the bavauto camber kits along with the solid aluminum subframe bushings, I have heard it is very expensive to do. | | | | | 10-04-2005, 10:56 PM | #12 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: North Saint Paul, MN Posts: 606 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by AlaskaBlue If you don't mind me asking how much did all the installation cost? I have been contemplating geting the bavauto camber kits along with the solid aluminum subframe bushings, I have heard it is very expensive to do. | Unfortunately I can't really accurately say. I had several things done on the car to get it in better shape. My total labor bill was around 1900 (that's right no parts just labor!!!  ). Overall I had a new clutch/flywheel, some exhaust work, and lots of suspension work, plus a custom alignment shop to properly set everything and a new set of tires. It added up quickly, but I'm happy how it all came out. The camber kits are pricey, but I would suggest not buying a cheaper set. This is an area where you'll want a quality piece and have to pay a bit for it. You may end up with inferior equipment. __________________ '96 Alaska Blue ti w/ Supersprint cat-back exhaust...Dinan CAI & Chip...Eibach Pro-Kit Springs...Bilstein Sport shocks...BavAuto camber kit...Brembo d/s rotors...UUC SSK...Centerforce Dual Friction clutch...TMS 9lb flywheel...18 inch OZ Rims...Carbon-Fiber dash/gauge bezel...Momo Shift Knob...Indiglo gauges...Schroth Harness...ZKW's/ProLumen 6k HID...Predator Chromiums
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Quote: | Originally Posted by AlaskaBlue I have been contemplating geting the bavauto camber kits along with the solid aluminum subframe bushings | i wouldn't do solid aluminum subframe bushings unless you really want a brutal ride. poly bushings will give you at least a little less harsh ride and shouldn't really wear out. ireland engineering sells poly subframe bushings. __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles
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Quote: | Originally Posted by cali-ti i wouldn't do solid aluminum subframe bushings unless you really want a brutal ride. poly bushings will give you at least a little less harsh ride and shouldn't really wear out. ireland engineering sells poly subframe bushings. | I want brutal. I am a gluton for punishment when it comes to ride quality/suspension mods. | | | | | 10-03-2005, 09:25 PM | #15 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portugal - Lisboa Posts: 205 |
nick_hegel, did you install front and rear kits?
Did the handling improve? __________________ Portuguese 318ti
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