» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | 1999 M3 Swap 09-07-2023 10:10 PM 05-02-2024 08:18 PM 6 Replies, 330,330 Views | | | | | | | 03-03-2010, 10:47 PM | #76 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: 43609 Posts: 3,425 | Clutch, flywheel, hoses, fpr if your car is 95 or 96, gas lines for new fpr if needed... __________________ 1995 Hellrot Clubsport 318ti -Gone 1996 Schwartz II Sport 357ti - 5.7L V8 LS1/6 1997 Moregrun Metallic 318ti - Gone 1998 Schwartz II sport 318ti - M50TUB25/5 | | | 03-03-2010, 10:47 PM | #77 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: 43609 Posts: 3,425 | Also only z, e30, and ti axles work. __________________ 1995 Hellrot Clubsport 318ti -Gone 1996 Schwartz II Sport 357ti - 5.7L V8 LS1/6 1997 Moregrun Metallic 318ti - Gone 1998 Schwartz II sport 318ti - M50TUB25/5 | | | 03-03-2010, 10:58 PM | #78 | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 | Quote: Originally Posted by jae_rex Hello Jim. I am now in the process of having my motor shipped, but would like a final rundown of parts, before the shipper gets rid of the donor car. Can you give me a quick list of everything. Here is what he is shipping me: - motor (99 M52) - motor mounts - wiring harness - gauge cluster - axles - EWS - chips from the keys - ECU - radiator - Is there anything I missed? Also how do I go about purchasing your manual? I will need this before I start, and even before the motor is shipped. Thanks in advance. | Hello Jae. The key chips are not a lot of use to you... It is easier to just have the EWS alignment done by the dealer; however the alternative is to swap ALL the locks from the donor car, and use the donor car keys. If you are running A/C you need those hoses (which you may want to get new) and also the Power Steering hoses. I assume/hope all the accessories are on your donor engine as well.... Ordering information is a sticky in the North America FOR SALE section right here! Good luck with your project! | | | 03-03-2010, 11:30 PM | #79 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 111 | OK. I will check on the sticky to order the manual a.s.a.p. I will be reusing my Gtrag tranny from my 97 Ti. Will that be an issue? __________________ "Never trust a big butt and a smile" 97- 328Ti (daily) 01- S2K (auto-x, cruiser) 96- JDM Integra SiR-G turbo (1/4 mile, auto-x, road course, show) | | | 03-03-2010, 11:48 PM | #80 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: 43609 Posts: 3,425 | Power steering setup as well. Getrag will be just fine make sure you run the corresponding flywheel with clutch __________________ 1995 Hellrot Clubsport 318ti -Gone 1996 Schwartz II Sport 357ti - 5.7L V8 LS1/6 1997 Moregrun Metallic 318ti - Gone 1998 Schwartz II sport 318ti - M50TUB25/5 | | | 03-03-2010, 11:54 PM | #81 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 111 | So its not a straight bolt-on? Will I need to get a clutch and flywheel for a Gtrag tranny for a 328i? __________________ "Never trust a big butt and a smile" 97- 328Ti (daily) 01- S2K (auto-x, cruiser) 96- JDM Integra SiR-G turbo (1/4 mile, auto-x, road course, show) | | | 03-04-2010, 12:00 AM | #82 | Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,220 | There are plenty of threads around here that have that info, I know blubimma has one up somewhere. I edited what you'll be needing to start off with Quote: Originally Posted by jae_rex - motor (99 M52 equipped with all accessories I assume?(M52 PS pump+hoses, 6 cyl AC stuff, ect) - motor mounts - wiring harness - gauge cluster - EWS module (from behind glove box) - chips from the keys - ECU - radiator (your stock 4 cyl rad will work) - Stock getrag tran or ZF (source a new 328 clutch kit to be on the safe side) --If you want the ZF you'll need: --linkage, shifter, 328/m3 driveshaft, don't worry about ASC or cruise | | | | 03-04-2010, 12:05 AM | #83 | Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,220 | Quote: Originally Posted by J!m Hello Jae. The key chips are not a lot of use to you... It is easier to just have the EWS alignment done by the dealer; however the alternative is to swap ALL the locks from the donor car, and use the donor car keys. If you are running A/C you need those hoses (which you may want to get new) and also the Power Steering hoses. I assume/hope all the accessories are on your donor engine as well.... Ordering information is a sticky in the North America FOR SALE section right here! Good luck with your project! | If he can get the matching key chips and EWS module I would go for that over alignment or swapping locks. | | | 03-04-2010, 01:32 AM | #84 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: 43609 Posts: 3,425 | I meant, you need to install the corresponding clutch to its flywheel. 1.9 with 1.9, 2.8 with 2.8, 3.0 with 3.0. They have different disc diameters and are not interchangable. __________________ 1995 Hellrot Clubsport 318ti -Gone 1996 Schwartz II Sport 357ti - 5.7L V8 LS1/6 1997 Moregrun Metallic 318ti - Gone 1998 Schwartz II sport 318ti - M50TUB25/5 | | | 03-04-2010, 02:46 PM | #85 | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 | Quote: Originally Posted by Bluebimma I meant, you need to install the corresponding clutch to its flywheel. 1.9 with 1.9, 2.8 with 2.8, 3.0 with 3.0. They have different disc diameters and are not interchangable. | That is correct, and good advice. AND I suggest changing the radiator to a six cylinder one, and not rely on the four cylinder one (even more so if the radiator is a used one!). Yes, it will work; however it is not of the ideal capacity to cool the six, particularly if you delete the aux fan which seems popular (and I also don't suggest that either- get the aux fan working!). | | | 03-05-2010, 01:50 AM | #86 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: 43609 Posts: 3,425 | People have different opinions and such about the cooling system and what to use. Personally, its been just fine for the past 4 years on all three of my tis. Measuring its core vs the cubic inches of the I6, the 4 cylinder radiator has more than enough capacity and cooling abilities to keep the I6 under control. True, its a good idea to have a fan, but ive been fanless and 4cyl radiator equipped since ive had a 6 near my car(s). 1 square inch of radiator surface vs a cubic inch of engine displacement. __________________ 1995 Hellrot Clubsport 318ti -Gone 1996 Schwartz II Sport 357ti - 5.7L V8 LS1/6 1997 Moregrun Metallic 318ti - Gone 1998 Schwartz II sport 318ti - M50TUB25/5 Last edited by Bluebimma; 03-05-2010 at 01:53 AM. | | | 03-05-2010, 01:47 PM | #87 | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 | Quote: Originally Posted by Bluebimma 1 square inch of radiator surface vs a cubic inch of engine displacement. | I don't doubt it works, it has been documented to have worked many times now. I recommend against it for maximum reliability. As the saying goes: "Your mileage may vary" However you are a bit off on your radiator calculation. (and I am not sure how much, but...). The radiator internal VOLUME may be only a cubic inch more; however the cooling surface area is SUBSTANTIALLY larger- all that folded aluminum between the (slightly longer) water pipes makes a BIG difference. The six radiator has a better ability to reject heat than the four. Not starting a war; I just wanted everyone to understand that there is a more significant difference between the radiators in spite of their appearance. | | | 06-22-2010, 09:31 PM | #88 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 111 | I am using a M52 of out a 99 328is. My buddy has a old M44 out and we are a bit confused. Will I need all of the items on page 28 of Jim's swap guide? What can be reused from the M44. Thanks. __________________ "Never trust a big butt and a smile" 97- 328Ti (daily) 01- S2K (auto-x, cruiser) 96- JDM Integra SiR-G turbo (1/4 mile, auto-x, road course, show) | | | 06-22-2010, 09:40 PM | #89 | Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bouncing off the rev limiter in CT! Posts: 3,156 | I sent you a direct e-mail reply, Jae. (but in case you don't get it) Since the list is for an M3 engine, and you are using a 328 engine, you need all those CORRESPONDING parts from the 328. I hope that's clear for you! If you have the 328 car, you can recycle a lot of parts from the car. If you only have the engine, you need to get the other parts. The list is there because the ti parts on that list do not work with a six under the hood. The A/C is different The Power Steering is different The cooling system is different The electrical (of course) is different\ The Suspension is different | | | 06-22-2010, 09:47 PM | #90 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 111 | Thanks Jim. I will look up the corresponding parts list for a 328, instead from an M3. Im still waiting for my mounts, so I do more rereading in the meantime. Jae __________________ "Never trust a big butt and a smile" 97- 328Ti (daily) 01- S2K (auto-x, cruiser) 96- JDM Integra SiR-G turbo (1/4 mile, auto-x, road course, show) | | | | | Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |