 » Site Navigation | | | | » Recent Threads | | | |  |  |  | |  10-03-2010, 05:37 PM | #1 | | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Nj Posts: 120 |  Will these tires/rims work on my car?
Hey, I just got a pair of snow tires for free size 206-60-16, my current bmw tires are 205/60-15, so these tires wont fit on my rims?
So I found a pair of rims on craigslist, R16 Borbet 5 spoke alloy rims 120mm bolt pattern.
So my questions are will the snow tires fit on my current rims? If not will they fit on the Borbet rims? And will these Borbet fit on my bmw? |  |  | | 10-03-2010, 07:07 PM | #2 | | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Land of the Vikings Posts: 2,700 |
nope wont fit the current rims rim size 16" all other measurements are more that within tolerance but the wheel sizes are different, the borbet wheels can take the tyres, but without knowing the ET measurement, its hared to say  __________________ 
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Last edited by Mallard; 10-03-2010 at 07:09 PM. | | | | | 10-03-2010, 07:49 PM | #3 | | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Nj Posts: 120 |
Quote: Originally Posted by Mallard  nope wont fit the current rims rim size 16" all other measurements are more that within tolerance but the wheel sizes are different, the borbet wheels can take the tyres, but without knowing the ET measurement, its hared to say | Without knowing the exact measurements of what? | | | | | 10-03-2010, 08:16 PM | #4 | | Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Land of the Vikings Posts: 2,700 |
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Ok so my bmw 318ti has bolt pattern 5X120mm? Correct
These rims have bolt pattern as the guy who selling them says
"As best I can measure, the bolt pattern is 5 X 4 5/8 in." which is about 117.8mm which could round up to 120mm prob?
If so do these rims fit right on without adding any other hardware? | | | | | 10-04-2010, 12:12 AM | #6 | | NOBODY F's with the Jesus Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ventura California Posts: 7,824 |
Bolt pattern has nothing to do with offset. Offset = backspacing. Offset determines how far the wheels will be recessed in the fenders. The lower the offset, the further the wheels will stick out. e36's use a standard offset of around 38-41mm while e39 5 series' use 20mm offset. Some of the older model BMW's can even fit 13mm offset wheels.
And no, 5 x 4 5/8 does not "round up" to 5 x 120mm. I've seen people use 5 bolt chevy wheels on BMWs, but the bolt pattern still isn't perfect since the chevy uses a 5 x 4.75 which equates to 5 x 120.65mm.
Aside from that, the center bore needs to match as BMW wheels are hubcentric which means they use the centerbore to center themselves on the hub. Other vehicle manufactures use the studs to center the wheel on the hubs. The e36 uses a 72.56mm centerbore while e39's use a 74.1mm centerbore.
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Okay so im pretty sure they are BORBET Type H 16" rims, the offset says +20mm
So can I get these to fit? | | | | | 10-04-2010, 12:37 AM | #8 | | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Nj Posts: 120 |
Heres a picture of them too..  | | | | | 10-04-2010, 12:40 AM | #9 | | NOBODY F's with the Jesus Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ventura California Posts: 7,824 |
Quote: Originally Posted by B3n Okay so im pretty sure they are BORBET Type H 16" rims, the offset says +20mm
So can I get these to fit? | Did you read my post? You need a 5x120 bolt pattern, 72.56mm centerbore and an offset around 38-41mm. Sure you can "make" anything "work" if you don't care about safety and/or cost. Why not search for a set of wheels that actually "fit" your car?
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Quote: Originally Posted by cooljess76 Did you read my post? You need a 5x120 bolt pattern, 72.56mm centerbore and an offset around 38-41mm. Sure you can "make" anything "work" if you don't care about safety and/or cost. Why not search for a set of wheels that actually "fit" your car? | Well Im just looking for a low price set of rims to use in the winter, not looking to spend much on brand new rims. | | | | | 10-04-2010, 01:04 AM | #11 | | NOBODY F's with the Jesus Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ventura California Posts: 7,824 |
check out bimmerforums classified section or e46fanatics classifieds. There's plenty of used sets of e36 wheels floating around. | | | | | 10-04-2010, 01:08 AM | #12 | | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Nj Posts: 120 |
Okay, btw all I am seeing online for 16" bmw wheels the tire recommendations are 206-55-16, can I even fit 206-60-16 on "55" rims? | | | | | 10-04-2010, 01:16 AM | #13 | | NOBODY F's with the Jesus Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ventura California Posts: 7,824 |
Quote: Originally Posted by B3n Okay, btw all I am seeing online for 16" bmw wheels the tire recommendations are 206-55-16, can I even fit 206-60-16 on "55" rims? | "55" is the aspect ratio(sidewall height), it has nothing to do with rim fitment. Never seen a "206"/55/16, seen plenty of 205/60/16's though. The 205 or 206 is the tire width. These should fit on a 7" wide wheel ie;16x7. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=46
Last edited by cooljess76; 10-04-2010 at 01:22 AM. | | | | | 10-04-2010, 01:24 AM | #14 | | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Nj Posts: 120 |
Quote: Originally Posted by cooljess76 "55" is the aspect ratio(sidewall height), it has nothing to do with rim fitment. Never seen a "206"/55/16, seen plenty of 205/60/16's though. The 205 or 206 is the tire width. These should fit on a 7" wide wheel ie;16x7. | K cool , would 205 fit on 7.5 x 16? | | | | | |
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