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Quote: | Originally Posted by cali-ti for those "in the know," what is the largest width/outer diameter (i should be able to figure back to rim size/etc) that one can put on WITHOUT any mods to rack/fenders/wheel arches? | 17x7.5 with 38mm offset running 225/45/17 tires. Cheers, __________________ 
Engine: 2.1L Hartge conversion (bored to 86X91mm, ported & polished head, new valves, new crank, & upgraded ECU), Supersprint SS headers, Hartge exhaust, custom cat bypass (track), KV85 wires, Bosch platinum plugs, Vitesse cf spark plug cover, Vitesse cf CAI, Samco hoses, Fiamm air horns. Drivetrain: custom ssk, Vitesse adj. clutch stop, Redline D4 ATF & 75W90. Chassis: 18x8.5 Hartge Classics on 225/40/ZR18 Direzza DZ101s, 17x8 Hartge 7 spokes on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs and 17x9 Enkei MT1-R on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs(track), Vitesse 10mm spacers with cf/billet hub extenders, Bilstein PSS9 coilovers, Hartge sway bars & strut brace, urethane offset LCABs, Vitesse rsb, billet/urethane RSMs, X-brace, ATE BBK, ATE slotted rr. rotors, Goodridge ss. lines, ATE Superblue. Exterior: Violettschwarz, Hartge lip spoiler, window spoiler, hatch spoiler & mirrors, Vitesse cf door pillars, Vitesse cf fog light blanks (track), ZKW ellipsoids, HIDs in headlights, highbeams and foglights, and much more... Performance BMW Magazine feature car March 2003 www.vitessetuning.com |  |  | | 06-09-2005, 01:52 PM | #32 | | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by H3_2.1-ti 17x7.5 with 38mm offset running 225/45/17 tires.
Cheers, | thanks H3! __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles
current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray
acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts
2002 X5 4.4 Sport Package, 53.5k miles
Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel | | | | | 06-09-2005, 02:15 PM | #33 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Great White North! Posts: 701 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by cali-ti thanks H3! | Anytime! __________________
Engine: 2.1L Hartge conversion (bored to 86X91mm, ported & polished head, new valves, new crank, & upgraded ECU), Supersprint SS headers, Hartge exhaust, custom cat bypass (track), KV85 wires, Bosch platinum plugs, Vitesse cf spark plug cover, Vitesse cf CAI, Samco hoses, Fiamm air horns. Drivetrain: custom ssk, Vitesse adj. clutch stop, Redline D4 ATF & 75W90. Chassis: 18x8.5 Hartge Classics on 225/40/ZR18 Direzza DZ101s, 17x8 Hartge 7 spokes on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs and 17x9 Enkei MT1-R on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs(track), Vitesse 10mm spacers with cf/billet hub extenders, Bilstein PSS9 coilovers, Hartge sway bars & strut brace, urethane offset LCABs, Vitesse rsb, billet/urethane RSMs, X-brace, ATE BBK, ATE slotted rr. rotors, Goodridge ss. lines, ATE Superblue. Exterior: Violettschwarz, Hartge lip spoiler, window spoiler, hatch spoiler & mirrors, Vitesse cf door pillars, Vitesse cf fog light blanks (track), ZKW ellipsoids, HIDs in headlights, highbeams and foglights, and much more... Performance BMW Magazine feature car March 2003 www.vitessetuning.com | | | | | 06-09-2005, 02:35 PM | #34 | | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 |
now that i think about it ... i remember tire rack listing something about being able to use a staggered setup (wider in back). is that true? if so, what rim/tire combo is allowed in the back without mods? or does one have to mod if you do a staggered setup? TIA __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles
current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray
acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts
2002 X5 4.4 Sport Package, 53.5k miles
Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel | | | | | 06-09-2005, 02:49 PM | #35 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Great White North! Posts: 701 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by cali-ti now that i think about it ... i remember tire rack listing something about being able to use a staggered setup (wider in back). is that true? if so, what rim/tire combo is allowed in the back without mods? or does one have to mod if you do a staggered setup? TIA | For starters, a vehicle with 138hp does not require a staggered set up. It does not have the adequate power. On a 318ti, it already has factory dialed understeer. A staggered set up would be just a cosmetic upgrade. If you really desire this look (8.5 wide in the rear), you must modify the rear arches and incur the added expense of replacing tires more often (you will not be able to rotate the tires front to back or visa versa). Like I mentioned before, my rear arches were modified and I'm running 18x8.5 all around. I dialed the Eibach/Hartge sway bars for slight oversteer. A blast on the track in he dry, but a handfull in the wet. Cheers __________________
Engine: 2.1L Hartge conversion (bored to 86X91mm, ported & polished head, new valves, new crank, & upgraded ECU), Supersprint SS headers, Hartge exhaust, custom cat bypass (track), KV85 wires, Bosch platinum plugs, Vitesse cf spark plug cover, Vitesse cf CAI, Samco hoses, Fiamm air horns. Drivetrain: custom ssk, Vitesse adj. clutch stop, Redline D4 ATF & 75W90. Chassis: 18x8.5 Hartge Classics on 225/40/ZR18 Direzza DZ101s, 17x8 Hartge 7 spokes on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs and 17x9 Enkei MT1-R on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs(track), Vitesse 10mm spacers with cf/billet hub extenders, Bilstein PSS9 coilovers, Hartge sway bars & strut brace, urethane offset LCABs, Vitesse rsb, billet/urethane RSMs, X-brace, ATE BBK, ATE slotted rr. rotors, Goodridge ss. lines, ATE Superblue. Exterior: Violettschwarz, Hartge lip spoiler, window spoiler, hatch spoiler & mirrors, Vitesse cf door pillars, Vitesse cf fog light blanks (track), ZKW ellipsoids, HIDs in headlights, highbeams and foglights, and much more... Performance BMW Magazine feature car March 2003 www.vitessetuning.com | | | | | 06-09-2005, 02:54 PM | #36 | | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 |
ok ... i missed that part in the thread. at this point (still stock), i'll look to the size you indicated when i finally get around to upgrading wheels. want to do other mods first (x-brace, sways). thanks man  as an aside, what size are your sways? i was looking at the H&R set as my upgrade. __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles
current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray
acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts
2002 X5 4.4 Sport Package, 53.5k miles
Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel | | | | | 06-09-2005, 03:58 PM | #37 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Great White North! Posts: 701 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by cali-ti ok ... i missed that part in the thread. at this point (still stock), i'll look to the size you indicated when i finally get around to upgrading wheels. want to do other mods first (x-brace, sways). thanks man as an aside, what size are your sways? i was looking at the H&R set as my upgrade. | 28" front and 19" rear. Both are adjustable. Cheers, __________________
Engine: 2.1L Hartge conversion (bored to 86X91mm, ported & polished head, new valves, new crank, & upgraded ECU), Supersprint SS headers, Hartge exhaust, custom cat bypass (track), KV85 wires, Bosch platinum plugs, Vitesse cf spark plug cover, Vitesse cf CAI, Samco hoses, Fiamm air horns. Drivetrain: custom ssk, Vitesse adj. clutch stop, Redline D4 ATF & 75W90. Chassis: 18x8.5 Hartge Classics on 225/40/ZR18 Direzza DZ101s, 17x8 Hartge 7 spokes on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs and 17x9 Enkei MT1-R on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs(track), Vitesse 10mm spacers with cf/billet hub extenders, Bilstein PSS9 coilovers, Hartge sway bars & strut brace, urethane offset LCABs, Vitesse rsb, billet/urethane RSMs, X-brace, ATE BBK, ATE slotted rr. rotors, Goodridge ss. lines, ATE Superblue. Exterior: Violettschwarz, Hartge lip spoiler, window spoiler, hatch spoiler & mirrors, Vitesse cf door pillars, Vitesse cf fog light blanks (track), ZKW ellipsoids, HIDs in headlights, highbeams and foglights, and much more... Performance BMW Magazine feature car March 2003 www.vitessetuning.com | | | | | 06-10-2005, 03:14 PM | #38 | | Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Green Bay Posts: 30 |
Come on now.......to each their own.
If he wants to put 19" spinners on his TI, then I say do whatever makes you happy.
HOWEVER........ I wouldn't be caught dead with spinners on my TI. Spinners are nothing more than a Ghetto fad. They will be SO old and stupid by tomorrow. I can think of plenty of other things to spend the money on.
Me, personally, I like chrome 18" M5 wheels. That's about as Ghetto as I get.
~Stomp~ | | | | | 06-11-2005, 01:35 AM | #39 | | Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pismo Beach, CA Posts: 500 |
As for me being called out, it was unfair and unjustified. Im not a big mouth just pouring out useless information all over these boards. I actually called 2 tire shops in town, and they said (according to their software) that 19x8.5 will fit without any modifications. Now if they are wrong, I can eat some crow for that information, but I did do what I thought was adequate research before I opened my mouth.
And as for modifying the rear arches.... Whats the deal with that? I dont get how you would modify them. By make the fenders wider, or by bending different parts? Are you saying 19"x8.5" wont fit, or ANY 19"s wont fit? Is it the 19" or the 8.5" thats going to cause the problems? I have also called on this issue, and the mechanics said theyve never had any run-ins with that problem. but then again they said they never had anyone put 19"s on a TI. __________________
Joe, In San Luis Obispo
E30-> '96 TI sport -> E30 -> '96 TI | | | | | 06-11-2005, 01:47 PM | #40 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Great White North! Posts: 701 | 
Quote: | Originally Posted by jflip2002 As for me being called out, it was unfair and unjustified. Im not a big mouth just pouring out useless information all over these boards. I actually called 2 tire shops in town, and they said (according to their software) that 19x8.5 will fit without any modifications. Now if they are wrong, I can eat some crow for that information, but I did do what I thought was adequate research before I opened my mouth.
And as for modifying the rear arches.... Whats the deal with that? I dont get how you would modify them. By make the fenders wider, or by bending different parts? Are you saying 19"x8.5" wont fit, or ANY 19"s wont fit? Is it the 19" or the 8.5" thats going to cause the problems? I have also called on this issue, and the mechanics said theyve never had any run-ins with that problem. but then again they said they never had anyone put 19"s on a TI. | At this point, I think we are just repeating the same questions over and over. The question was already answered, so just take the facts as they are. __________________
Engine: 2.1L Hartge conversion (bored to 86X91mm, ported & polished head, new valves, new crank, & upgraded ECU), Supersprint SS headers, Hartge exhaust, custom cat bypass (track), KV85 wires, Bosch platinum plugs, Vitesse cf spark plug cover, Vitesse cf CAI, Samco hoses, Fiamm air horns. Drivetrain: custom ssk, Vitesse adj. clutch stop, Redline D4 ATF & 75W90. Chassis: 18x8.5 Hartge Classics on 225/40/ZR18 Direzza DZ101s, 17x8 Hartge 7 spokes on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs and 17x9 Enkei MT1-R on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs(track), Vitesse 10mm spacers with cf/billet hub extenders, Bilstein PSS9 coilovers, Hartge sway bars & strut brace, urethane offset LCABs, Vitesse rsb, billet/urethane RSMs, X-brace, ATE BBK, ATE slotted rr. rotors, Goodridge ss. lines, ATE Superblue. Exterior: Violettschwarz, Hartge lip spoiler, window spoiler, hatch spoiler & mirrors, Vitesse cf door pillars, Vitesse cf fog light blanks (track), ZKW ellipsoids, HIDs in headlights, highbeams and foglights, and much more... Performance BMW Magazine feature car March 2003 www.vitessetuning.com | | | | | 06-11-2005, 02:52 PM | #41 | | Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pismo Beach, CA Posts: 500 |
How was the question answered? You said they wouldn't fit, but didn't say how. If you say 19x8.5 won't fit, will 18x8.5s not fit? Will 19x7.5s not fit? I'm just wondering what's the problem, the diameter or the width? So no, that wast answered. __________________
Joe, In San Luis Obispo
E30-> '96 TI sport -> E30 -> '96 TI | | | | | 06-11-2005, 03:11 PM | #42 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Great White North! Posts: 701 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by jflip2002 How was the question answered? You said they wouldn't fit, but didn't say how. If you say 19x8.5 won't fit, will 18x8.5s not fit? Will 19x7.5s not fit? I'm just wondering what's the problem, the diameter or the width? So no, that wast answered. | The problem is the width. 19s diameter-wise can fit. The rear of a ti has the E30 trailing arm suspension therefore limiting the space. The rear arches can either be rolled using special tool that bolts on to the hub and with pressure on the inside of the lip rolls it towards the outside. The other option is to cut the lip with a cutting wheel and grind it clean. This requires repriming and painting. I am talking from experience working on several tis. I hope this answers your questions. BTW, I hope you weren't offended by what I said about people being misled by wrong info. It was a general statement for all on this forum. There have been a lot of enthusiasts misled on other forums that led to expensive consequences and as I mentioned before, we are here to help each other. Cheers, __________________
Engine: 2.1L Hartge conversion (bored to 86X91mm, ported & polished head, new valves, new crank, & upgraded ECU), Supersprint SS headers, Hartge exhaust, custom cat bypass (track), KV85 wires, Bosch platinum plugs, Vitesse cf spark plug cover, Vitesse cf CAI, Samco hoses, Fiamm air horns. Drivetrain: custom ssk, Vitesse adj. clutch stop, Redline D4 ATF & 75W90. Chassis: 18x8.5 Hartge Classics on 225/40/ZR18 Direzza DZ101s, 17x8 Hartge 7 spokes on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs and 17x9 Enkei MT1-R on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs(track), Vitesse 10mm spacers with cf/billet hub extenders, Bilstein PSS9 coilovers, Hartge sway bars & strut brace, urethane offset LCABs, Vitesse rsb, billet/urethane RSMs, X-brace, ATE BBK, ATE slotted rr. rotors, Goodridge ss. lines, ATE Superblue. Exterior: Violettschwarz, Hartge lip spoiler, window spoiler, hatch spoiler & mirrors, Vitesse cf door pillars, Vitesse cf fog light blanks (track), ZKW ellipsoids, HIDs in headlights, highbeams and foglights, and much more... Performance BMW Magazine feature car March 2003 www.vitessetuning.com | | | | | 06-11-2005, 07:47 PM | #43 | | Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pismo Beach, CA Posts: 500 |
Thank you. That should actually make my decision on my soon coming wheels easier. Only one of the two wheels I liked were available in 19x7.5" that I know of. At least 19"s can fit, that started to dissapoint me
I don't know if it would look tacky, but I've seen plastic pieces that make you body look wider. What if you pop rivet those on, bondo them, paint, etc..... Then you cut you actual fender, so the plastic piece would give you another .5-1" of space for the width. I personally wouldn't do it, but its a though lol. __________________
Joe, In San Luis Obispo
E30-> '96 TI sport -> E30 -> '96 TI | | | | | 06-11-2005, 11:36 PM | #44 | | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Great White North! Posts: 701 |
Quote: | Originally Posted by jflip2002 Thank you. That should actually make my decision on my soon coming wheels easier. Only one of the two wheels I liked were available in 19x7.5" that I know of. At least 19"s can fit, that started to dissapoint me
I don't know if it would look tacky, but I've seen plastic pieces that make you body look wider. What if you pop rivet those on, bondo them, paint, etc..... Then you cut you actual fender, so the plastic piece would give you another .5-1" of space for the width. I personally wouldn't do it, but its a though lol. | 19x7.5 should fit, but make sure you have the right offset. __________________
Engine: 2.1L Hartge conversion (bored to 86X91mm, ported & polished head, new valves, new crank, & upgraded ECU), Supersprint SS headers, Hartge exhaust, custom cat bypass (track), KV85 wires, Bosch platinum plugs, Vitesse cf spark plug cover, Vitesse cf CAI, Samco hoses, Fiamm air horns. Drivetrain: custom ssk, Vitesse adj. clutch stop, Redline D4 ATF & 75W90. Chassis: 18x8.5 Hartge Classics on 225/40/ZR18 Direzza DZ101s, 17x8 Hartge 7 spokes on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs and 17x9 Enkei MT1-R on 235/40/17 Direzza Z1 *specs(track), Vitesse 10mm spacers with cf/billet hub extenders, Bilstein PSS9 coilovers, Hartge sway bars & strut brace, urethane offset LCABs, Vitesse rsb, billet/urethane RSMs, X-brace, ATE BBK, ATE slotted rr. rotors, Goodridge ss. lines, ATE Superblue. Exterior: Violettschwarz, Hartge lip spoiler, window spoiler, hatch spoiler & mirrors, Vitesse cf door pillars, Vitesse cf fog light blanks (track), ZKW ellipsoids, HIDs in headlights, highbeams and foglights, and much more... Performance BMW Magazine feature car March 2003 www.vitessetuning.com | | | | | 06-11-2005, 11:48 PM | #45 | | Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pismo Beach, CA Posts: 500 |
What would the correct offset be... 40 mm? And Im not quite sure on what Id be cutting. A part of the frame back there that would be hitting? __________________
Joe, In San Luis Obispo
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