Harry Hockly Body Kit

[DaveKern]

Hi all,

I'm thinking of ordering up some parts from the UK for my rally car build. I'm not interested in doing any sort of group buy, but figured if someone else wanted parts, we might save some $$ if we combined on shipping. The parts themselves are pretty inexpensive, but I was quoted ~$750 for international shipping. The exchange rate is getting better, so that helps too.

http://www.hh-ms.com/database/index....&SelModelID=23

Weight for the entire body kit was quoted at ~60 lbs, which consists of the following parts:

hood
front bumper
front fenders
rear fender arches
rear hatch
rear high wing
rear bumper

Of course if anyone has information/experience on international shipping bulky items, I'm all ears.

Thanks,

Dave

[pdxmotorhead]

At one time, I heard westfield or caterham guys used to let racers piggyback on their shipments... The containers they ship the kits in have empty space....

Worth a shot....

Dave

[KINGAMR]

That looks like cool stuff and weighs only 60lbs??Did someone say weight reduction?!

[DaveKern]

Originally Posted by KINGAMR

That looks like cool stuff and weighs only 60lbs??Did someone say weight reduction?!

Yep. Here are the weights of the stock bits I posted in my rally build thread:

Front Bumper 27 lbs (skin, crash beam, & mounts)
Other Front Brackets 16 lbs (brace, top of bumper, no lights)
Hood 38 lbs (as removed from car, sound deadening still attached)
Front Fender 7.5 lbs
Dash Assembly 17 lbs (still had a few vent peices attached to bottom)
Rear 1/4 Windows 7 lbs (seal still attached to glass)
Rear Bumper Assembly 30 lbs (skin, beam, & mounts)
Hatch 46 lbs (hatch, glass, both struts)

Dave

[KINGAMR]

Dave how did you find out about this kit?do you have any pics of the fenders installed?I'd be interested in wide fenders but before my car gets painted here pretty soon.

[DaveKern]

Originally Posted by KINGAMR

Dave how did you find out about this kit?do you have any pics of the fenders installed?I'd be interested in wide fenders but before my car gets painted here pretty soon.

No pics that I've taken, but here's a few pics of the kit on one of the HH cars:

http://www.hh-ms.com/bmw_full_rhd.htm

Dave

[KINGAMR]

Oh ok that might be too goofy for a street car.

[DaveKern]

Originally Posted by KINGAMR

Oh ok that might be too goofy for a street car.

I think it looks pretty good, but you'd definately need some different offsets on your wheels to fill out the fenders. Its certainly a different look from a your standard street car.

I think I'm a bigger fan of the M3 front bumper, but for this kit, you'd need to do the fenders and bumpers so all the lines worked. I don't think the M3 bumper would last long at a rally event though.

Dave

[KINGAMR]

^That's true I'll talk to my guy about it to see if he can customize it and make it look different.

[DaveKern]

FWIW, I have no clue on fit & finish of the parts. Since they're built for use on rally cars they may not have show quality fitment...but to my non trained eyes, it looks pretty good.

Dave

[KINGAMR]

I think a good body shop would be able to make the fitment perfect and a good finished product, I'll let you know if I decide to go with those fenders.

[pdxmotorhead]

Originally Posted by DaveKern

I think it looks pretty good, but you'd definately need some different offsets on your wheels to fill out the fenders. Its certainly a different look from a your standard street car.

I think I'm a bigger fan of the M3 front bumper, but for this kit, you'd need to do the fenders and bumpers so all the lines worked. I don't think the M3 bumper would last long at a rally event though.

Dave

You don't fill out the fenders on a rally car they need suspension travel...
Think car flying through the air,,,

Whee Haaaa

Dave

[mohaughn]

You might also want to check with one of the guys like Alex Lipowich. I'm not sure if he is still doing it, but he used to have cargo containers shipped over form Europe. He was importing euro motors and euro 6 speed transmissions.

http://www.abloriginalparts.com/

He is a BMWCCA racer, and most of those guys are willing to help out a fellow racer. At least worth a shot to ask.

[DaveKern]

Originally Posted by pdxmotorhead

You don't fill out the fenders on a rally car they need suspension travel...
Think car flying through the air,,,

Whee Haaaa

Dave

Agreed, don't want to have them flush with the outside of the fender lip, but I'm guessing that at a coupe extra inches of clearance, running stock offset wheels would look a bit funny. With other people more likely interested in the widebody kit for street use, I'd bet they'll push the wheels even further out. Here's a shot of a CM3C car and it looks like he's pushed the wheels out a bit:

http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listin...Car__SOLD.html

FWIW, on my Evo when running local hillclimbs, I can stuff 275/45/17s under the car, and even though they barely fit under there, they cause no rubbing with jumping...cracking lightweight wheels on the other hand...

Dave

[pdxmotorhead]

Yea, its a balance of looks vs function......

I was running sweep a couple years ago and a guy with a Mitz went just a bit too wide, did bad things to the front fenders. We had a section of whoops on a corner...

Dave