135i vs lambo

[thesk8nmidget]

[tiFreak]

wow, I really want a 135i now

[CirrusSR22]

125 mph on public roads = Jackasses.

[1996 328ti]

Originally Posted by CirrusSR22

125 mph on public roads = Jackasses.

Idiots.
They deserve to be driving mopeds.

[Bluebimma]

In trafiic....>WEAK!

[Philly]

besides the point that they are jackasses.... how the heck does a 135i with exhaust/intake upgrades, take out a lambo - that doesn't seem right at all.

[Marv17]

Originally Posted by Philly

besides the point that they are jackasses.... how the heck does a 135i with exhaust/intake upgrades, take out a lambo - that doesn't seem right at all.

perhaps the guy in the lambo doesn't know how to drive too well??

[Den]

Originally Posted by Philly

besides the point that they are jackasses.... how the heck does a 135i with exhaust/intake upgrades, take out a lambo - that doesn't seem right at all.

Don't forget that the motor is turbocharged and tuned very conservatively from the factory. These guys reprogrammed the ECU for an extra 100 hp. It was clearly staged with the Lambo driver acting lame, but ~400 hp in a ~3,000-lb car is pretty competitive.

http://www.vishnutuning.com/bmw_335i.htm

[Den]

Oh yeah, I don't think there's any racing going on here. It looks like they're filming a promo video, not racing.

[mohaughn]

Originally Posted by Den

Don't forget that the motor is turbocharged and tuned very conservatively from the factory. These guys reprogrammed the ECU for an extra 100 hp. It was clearly staged with the Lambo driver acting lame, but ~400 hp in a ~3,000-lb car is pretty competitive.

http://www.vishnutuning.com/bmw_335i.htm

Proceed is way to agressive of a tune.. And it's not really a tuner at that, just a piggy back... It is not making any changes to the computer management itself, rather it is just faking signals to the computer... It instantly voids the warranty on the engine, all drive components, and all emissions components...

Not to mention that the drive shafts and differentials on the 335 can't handle the extra power... I know people say these things are rock solid now with the extra oil cooler, but that is just not the case when you are running the really aggressive tunes out there.

[Den]

Originally Posted by mohaughn

Proceed is way to agressive of a tune.. And it's not really a tuner at that, just a piggy back... It is not making any changes to the computer management itself, rather it is just faking signals to the computer... It instantly voids the warranty on the engine, all drive components, and all emissions components... Not to mention that the drive shafts and differentials on the 335 can't handle the extra power... I know people say these things are rock solid now with the extra oil cooler, but that is just not the case when you are running the really aggressive tunes out there.

Okay, it uses a piggy-back box instead of reprogramming the ECU. I have no idea of the merit of the product or the wimpiness of modern BMW drivelines. I was just pointing out that, longevity aside, miraculous power gains are possible when dealing with boost, and the 135 in the video has more than just exhaust and intake mods.

IMO, the factory tuning of 8.5 psi for 300 hp / 300 lb-ft from a 3.0-liter turbo is pretty conservative. If the tuning is due to inability of the driveline to handle more torque, well, that just seems weak compared to the robust nature of old-school BMW hardware.

These guys are running ~50% more torque on stock E28 drivelines, and the E28 is ~300 lbs lighter than the E90. Weaker drivelines on bigger, heavier cars? Technical progress?

http://www.turbochargingdynamics.com...5i_Stage_2.php

[mohaughn]

Originally Posted by Den

Okay, it uses a piggy-back box instead of reprogramming the ECU. I have no idea of the merit of the product or the wimpiness of modern BMW drivelines. I was just pointing out that, longevity aside, miraculous power gains are possible when dealing with boost, and the 135 in the video has more than just exhaust and intake mods.

IMO, the factory tuning of 8.5 psi for 300 hp / 300 lb-ft from a 3.0-liter turbo is pretty conservative. If the tuning is due to inability of the driveline to handle more torque, well, that just seems weak compared to the robust nature of old-school BMW hardware.

These guys are running ~50% more torque on stock E28 drivelines, and the E28 is ~300 lbs lighter than the E90. Weaker drivelines on bigger, heavier cars? Technical progress?

http://www.turbochargingdynamics.com...5i_Stage_2.php

I think it is just like tuning any car. If you do something that adds an extra 100 hp, you should expect to have to upgrade other parts of the car to keep up with the extra power. If you are doing a lot of hard launches or drifting with all of that extra power, combined with really sticky tires I'd expect things to break.

I think they are amazing cars, and the tune may be conservative, but it is not a sports car... Dinan seems to make a big difference between their ECU tune, and the piggy-backs out there. Whether dinan is full of it, I don't know, I don't know enough about how those things really work.

But you know.. considering how unreliable some Lambo's can be, the agressively tuned BMW is probably still more reliable..

[Maverix]

Hah! not bad at all. Though I hate the ending. Wish the 135i won. =\

I'm sorry to disagree with some of the people in the topic, but I think your a jackass for calling those drivers a jackass. I'm not sure about yall; but I hate it when I see a M3 driving 40mph in a 60mph, holding up the line in the 1 lane road. Now i'm not saying that people with fast cars should race 24/7 but they should have fun riding an agile car. If people choose to race, put their lifes in danger, and risk getting their license suspended for 20 years, then I give them major props. And plus, it's on a straight away, so I don't want to hear anyone complaining that they are putting other peoples life in danger. What are the chances that they would get into a wreck? If you are unable to keep the steering wheel in a straight direction, then you might want to think about getting a lambo, regardless of your budget.

[318tifan]

Originally Posted by Maverick1225

Hah! not bad at all. Though I hate the ending. Wish the 135i won. =\

I'm sorry to disagree with some of the people in the topic, but I think your a jackass for calling those drivers a jackass. I'm not sure about yall; but I hate it when I see a M3 driving 40mph in a 60mph, holding up the line in the 1 lane road. Now i'm not saying that people with fast cars should race 24/7 but they should have fun riding an agile car. If people choose to race, put their lifes in danger, and risk getting their license suspended for 20 years, then I give them major props. And plus, it's on a straight away, so I don't want to hear anyone complaining that they are putting other peoples life in danger. What are the chances that they would get into a wreck? If you are unable to keep the steering wheel in a straight direction, then you might want to think about getting a lambo, regardless of your budget.

are you serious??
i'm all for fast cars going fast.... ON THE TRACK
if you're on public roadway, please drive responsibly as there are people who rely on some sort of standard deviation with the speed limit... if you're going 125mph on a US highway populated by other drivers, that's wayyy too fast and yes you do put other people's lives at risk

so let's recap:
drive responsibly
don't drink and drive.... practice does not make perfect....
that's my public service announcement for the day

[thesk8nmidget]

Originally Posted by Maverick1225

Hah! not bad at all. Though I hate the ending. Wish the 135i won. =\

I'm sorry to disagree with some of the people in the topic, but I think your a jackass for calling those drivers a jackass. I'm not sure about yall; but I hate it when I see a M3 driving 40mph in a 60mph, holding up the line in the 1 lane road. Now i'm not saying that people with fast cars should race 24/7 but they should have fun riding an agile car. If people choose to race, put their lifes in danger, and risk getting their license suspended for 20 years, then I give them major props. And plus, it's on a straight away, so I don't want to hear anyone complaining that they are putting other peoples life in danger. What are the chances that they would get into a wreck? If you are unable to keep the steering wheel in a straight direction, then you might want to think about getting a lambo, regardless of your budget.

they are complete idiots... there is never a need to go over 100 miles an hour on a road with other drivers on it unless it is a track! END OF STORY!

they can go enjoy their fast cars on the track no need to do it on open roads!
they were putting other peoples lifes in danger.. what happens when someone merges onto the highway and these two cars are doing +100.

sudden moves when going +100 can be deadly!

public roads are not smooth and very safe compared to a track.

tracks save innocent peoples lives!