» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | | | 1999 M3 Swap 09-07-2023 10:10 PM 06-01-2024 03:04 PM 7 Replies, 428,733 Views | | | | | | | 04-23-2005, 11:44 PM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 484 | 318ti LSD or E30 LSD I am debating what to get. Currently i have an open differential on my 318ti M3 swap. Whats do you guys think i should get. E30 with modified axles or 318ti LSD. I would rather go with mcoupe/roadster rear subframe but they are very rare to find. | | | 04-24-2005, 12:40 AM | #2 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tampa Posts: 465 | well... if you have the source and the funds... get the M coupe. Otherwise.... stay simple and get a 3.25 E30 LSD and E30 axels. works fine for me. | | | 04-24-2005, 01:19 AM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 484 | exacly what part of the E30 axle is used? | | | 04-24-2005, 07:20 AM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tampa Posts: 465 | Bro. I used THE WHOLE thing. What you read on the write ups is correct to an extend. BUT the ONLY reason he used part of the stock and part of the Ti's axels (hybrid axels) is because he was not able to fint an E30 set in GOOD SHAPE. Remember.... don't cut corners... if you are planning to get some power out of the S50 do it right. Do it ONCE. On BMW swaps, NOTHING IS "NEW", I mean people have triyed and done it pretty much all... so trying to "come up" with a new idea is really a waste of time. (not in all cases.. I mean, talking about diffs, etc... and if you have the cash, you can do it all!) if you source E30 axels, please let me know... I'd like to have a set for spares. | | | 04-24-2005, 08:32 AM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 484 | Can you send me a picture of your extra E30 axles. I might be interested. I was looking at the diffrential write up under the notebook section. If you compare the E30 to 318ti. The e30 is alitlle longer dont you think. I thought for this swap to work you only needed the inner cv joint from the E30 to make a hybrid axle (e30 inner cv and the rest 318ti). Isnt that the reason the hybrid axles was used so that it can be bolted up to the E30 differential........ Send pics to tad@dynamictransmedia.com | | | 04-24-2005, 08:32 AM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tyler, TX Posts: 1,022 | Quote: Originally Posted by maurolin Bro. I used THE WHOLE thing. What you read on the write ups is correct to an extend. BUT the ONLY reason he used part of the stock and part of the Ti's axels (hybrid axels) is because he was not able to fint an E30 set in GOOD SHAPE. Remember.... don't cut corners... if you are planning to get some power out of the S50 do it right. Do it ONCE. On BMW swaps, NOTHING IS "NEW", I mean people have triyed and done it pretty much all... so trying to "come up" with a new idea is really a waste of time. (not in all cases.. I mean, talking about diffs, etc... and if you have the cash, you can do it all!) if you source E30 axels, please let me know... I'd like to have a set for spares. | I just picked up an E30 diff. and was wondering if there is any reason to not just order a new set of E30 axles. From what I have read there is not reason they will not work as long as I shim the ABS sensor. | | | 04-24-2005, 08:47 AM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 484 | Let me know cause either the write up is outdated or just have minor flaws. To me the E30 looks a little longer. I dont know . If it bolts write up without any modifications, then your best bet is just to purchase a newer axles. Let me know your experience.. | | | 04-24-2005, 02:53 PM | #8 | aka Stabby Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mead, CO Posts: 5,336 | i'm in process of this swap right now. once completed, i can tell you exactly what i needed and what i did (compared to the write up). here's what i've done so far: 1) get used E30 3.73 LSD 2) ordered used E30 half shafts 3) ordered a crapload of new mounting hardware, M coupe finned diff cover, speed sensor, etc 4) clean it up and paint it (see my thread that i started for covering that) *** insert tremendous help and experience of my best friend from here down *** 5) remove half shaft flanges and seals, install new ones 6) remove old diff cover, clean up mounting surface on diff (all old gasket material, etc), spray new gasket (both sides) and all mounting bolts with high-tac, install new M coupe finned diff cover 7) remove halfshaft hub nut lock ring and nut (they were rusted in there like you wouldn't believe, my friend worked those out and then used an impact wrench to break the nuts free while i worked on the diff) that's as far as i've gotten so far, have to drop the exhaust and then finish up the diff job today ... then install the new superspring exhaust too __________________ 1996 318ti, California package, 267k miles current mods: bilstein sports, bavauto springs, e30 m3 LCABs, solid metal ball joints, bavauto RSMs w/reinforcements, e30 3.73 LSD & halfshafts, supersprint cat-back exhaust, turner rear sway bar reinforcements, IE poly subframe & RTABs + camber/toe kits, powdercoated e36 32x front calipers, sport mirrors, H&R 28mmF/19mmR sway bars, x-brace, auto solutions SSK w/poly bushing upgrade, BMW CD43 head unit, DICE HD Radio w/iPod integration and "stealth" HD antenna, staggered style 68s, orange electronic TPMS, leather arm rest, JT Designs metal undertray acquired and awaiting install: heated seat kit, cali top switch relo, lumbar support kit, park distance control kit, heated washer nozzle kit, m-coupe rear subframe, trailing arms, differential, and halfshafts, m-coupe front/rear brakes with master cylinder, under hood light kit, mud flaps, rear sun blind, auto-dimming rear view mirror, tilt steering wheel retrofit, apexcone 5000K HIDs with 55W ballasts 2002 X5 4.4 Sport Package, 53.5k miles Current Mods: e46 m3 steering wheel | | | 04-24-2005, 10:27 PM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 484 | Let me know if you just bolted up the E30 axles without modifications. If it bolts on the 318ti then im probably going this route while a complete mcoupe subframe comes my way someday | | | 04-24-2005, 11:37 PM | #10 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tampa Posts: 465 | guys... this subject is SOOO worn out! let me brake it down Listen, E30 axels bolt on FINE! All you need to do is SPACE OUT THE ABS SENSORS WITH 3 "O" rings. (I used Air Cond. O ring gaskets... yes! $0.25 e/a the green ones!!) DO IT RIGHT! DO IT ONCE! | | | 04-25-2005, 04:08 AM | #11 | Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 148 | I swapped mine right after Constant did his diff. Didn't have to do any ABS sensor spacing. Just make sure you unbolt the ABS sensors before you install the e30 half-shafts. SL Quote: Originally Posted by maurolin guys... this subject is SOOO worn out! let me brake it down Listen, E30 axels bolt on FINE! All you need to do is SPACE OUT THE ABS SENSORS WITH 3 "O" rings. (I used Air Cond. O ring gaskets... yes! $0.25 e/a the green ones!!) DO IT RIGHT! DO IT ONCE! | __________________ 1996 318ti Active Garrett aspirated... 1996 318ti Sport | | | 04-25-2005, 07:04 AM | #12 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 484 | Kirasir: Thanks for the clarification. I guesss I will be going this route until i find something better (eg. Mcoupe). So all I need to do is unbolt the abs sensor before installing the E30 axles. I probably make a trip to a local junkyard next weekend or so. I've been busy this weekend. Finally got my 6cyl gauge cluster working properly. I made sure I wired the mpg gauge right. I took a few picture of the process. I probably make a step by step write up with pictures. The direction i got from DIY was kinda confusing. Stay tune... | | | 04-25-2005, 05:52 PM | #13 | Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 68 | Not to beat a dead horse, but I just wanted to clarify. I originally did the E30/318ti hybrid axles because the ABS pulse ring on my used E30 axles were in bad shape. I have since switched to E30 325i axles, and they work fine. Like Serge, I didn't have to use a spacer on the ABS sensor. But I've also heard that some people did, so YMMV. Constant | | | 04-25-2005, 05:57 PM | #14 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Portland Or Posts: 2,666 | Sounds like if three people who have done this from start to finish would get together and write up a basic checklist of what works it could be sticky in the drive train section and folk who need it could sort out myth from legend. I know that I've been considering the rear gear swap and it was an item I was wondering about as well.... Dave __________________ Dave - PDX 1995 318ti - Active Black and Tan. 2005 330xi - Mtech 1 - 6spd - Orient Blue/Black | | | 04-25-2005, 06:33 PM | #15 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manassas, VA Posts: 4,129 | That is exactly why I have waited to jump into this project! When I'm sure I understand what needs to be done, then I'll get right on it. The last thing I need is to drive to my brother's house, put it on a lift, tear it out, and then realize I don't have what I need to finish the job. This is my only car, I can't afford any down time. Quote: Originally Posted by pdxmotorhead SOunds like if three people who have done this from start to finish would get together and write up a basic checklist of what works it could be sticky in the drive train section and folk woh need it could sout out myth from legend. Dave | __________________ 1998 (July) 318ti, 5-spd OEM Armrest Blaupunkt Heidelberg CD50 CD Player/Compact Drive MP3 Player Diamond Audio 5.25" rear speakers Navman ICN 530 GPS BMWALARM.COM (with comfort settings) after market alarm system Magnecor 8.5mm wires M-Z3 Shifter/Momo Knob Burlwood Dashboard Stromung Exhaust X-brace Racing Dynamics Front Strut Bar Carbonio C.A.I. 17" Rial Rims Vader Seats/Heated/Lumbar Support M-tech Steering Wheel/Front Sway Bar/Front & Rear Bumper Depos/w 6500K Angel Eyes/6000K HIDs Clear Corners M3 Mirrors UUC Light Weight Flywheel/M5 Clutch/M3 Clutch Slave E28 3.46 LSD/Mcoupe Cover/E30 Flanges & Halfshafts UUC S.S. 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