» Site Navigation | | » Recent Threads | | | | | | | 12-15-2010, 07:52 AM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Riverside ,So-Cal Posts: 725 | H&R lowering springs??? I got a 96 318Ti Sport and I want to drop it should I go with the H&R lowering springs? | | | 12-15-2010, 02:17 PM | #2 | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Minnesnowta Posts: 6 | Your going to want to go with "eibach" they are the best and always have been. TRUST ME | | | 12-15-2010, 02:21 PM | #3 | NOBODY F's with the Jesus Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ventura California Posts: 7,824 | 90% of lowered members here are running H&R's. Good springs. I highly recommend upgrading shocks and struts. Stiffer aftermarket spring rates will certainly cause your stock shocks and struts to fail prematurely. I had Eibachs on my clubsport and there was no noticeable difference. I've also ran Intrax and B&G springs on my other Bimmers. The Intrax were really stiff, B&G's were the lowest. Last edited by cooljess76; 12-15-2010 at 02:25 PM. | | | 12-16-2010, 01:16 AM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: asdfasdf Posts: 10,002 | I've got H&R race springs on my ti with Bilstein sports, I'm happy with them | | | 12-16-2010, 01:37 AM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: MD/PA/DC Posts: 1,629 | H&R sports with Tokico blues on mine. 150 miles a day and perfectly comfy, still has enough clearance to get over most stuff. Might want to read up on what happens to the rear suspension when you drop it though... __________________ No more ti. | | | 12-16-2010, 12:41 PM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin Posts: 3,059 | Haven't tried many set ups. Just RD sports, and H&R race springs with bilstein shocks and struts. I DD the H&R's with the occasional races here and there. I'm very happy with the appearance, and the handling. The H&R rear springs are 1mm shorter than the RD's, but more stiffer. Quote: Originally Posted by familytruckster Might want to read up on what happens to the rear suspension when you drop it though... | +1. It's not pretty. Tramlining, and the rear wants to hop when it goes over a bump while turning. __________________ Come get a ti-shirt Quote: From the e30 M3, evolved the e36. They were "Keepin it Real" when they introduced the 318ti ClubSport in '95 and the 318ti Sports from '96 to '99. After that... well nothing else really matters. ~Jess | | | | 12-16-2010, 02:33 PM | #7 | Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: hartford, ct Posts: 61 | I'm also considering a lowering suspension for next spring. Are you guys saying it is not recommended to do the H&R race kit because it actually makes the ride worse? You mentioned having issues with the rear end hopping around corners.... this is problematic for me... i want to go around corners not be scared to death i'm going to drift out. would it be recommended to go with the Sport kit which doesn't lower the car as much? | | | 12-16-2010, 07:18 PM | #8 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Elizabeth City, NC Posts: 3,877 | Pretty much any lowering kit with stiffer springs is going to make the ride worse if you are comparing it to stock. __________________ ~Dave~ 98 328ti Morea Grun slicktop 11 128i space gray slicktop 13 JGC WK2 Deep Cherry Search | RealOEM | | | 12-16-2010, 09:06 PM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin Posts: 3,059 | Quote: Originally Posted by justmanson I'm also considering a lowering suspension for next spring. Are you guys saying it is not recommended to do the H&R race kit because it actually makes the ride worse? You mentioned having issues with the rear end hopping around corners.... this is problematic for me... i want to go around corners not be scared to death i'm going to drift out. would it be recommended to go with the Sport kit which doesn't lower the car as much? | When I had the sport kit, I don't think fronts were low enough compared to the back. I had really bad tramlining, especially if you have skinny wheels. But when I started running race, some tramlining went away. I think it evened the balance a bit, and the rates. Tbh, the rear hop is not that bad. And if you're scared to death of drifting on corners, you better get used to it, because these ti's get tail happy a lot. __________________ Come get a ti-shirt Quote: From the e30 M3, evolved the e36. They were "Keepin it Real" when they introduced the 318ti ClubSport in '95 and the 318ti Sports from '96 to '99. After that... well nothing else really matters. ~Jess | | | | 12-16-2010, 09:50 PM | #10 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Riverside ,So-Cal Posts: 725 | Thanks for the advice guys and I'm only planning to drop the front not the back because the rear is already low. | | | 12-31-2010, 04:30 AM | #11 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Riverside ,So-Cal Posts: 725 | are the cosmo racing sleeve overs good? | | | 07-01-2014, 08:36 AM | #12 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,451 | Older thread, but just wanting to confirm the different type and color for TI based H&R springs. I looked on the website and Purple were sports, Blue were super sports and red were race. I was talking to James the other day and he indicated for TI's purple and Blue are reversed. I measured the two springs and found the Blue ones 2mm thicker and the same height. I'd thinking the purple would have a lower drop, supporting James comments to be super sports, but wouldn't they be softer being a smaller diameter? Clarity needed please. Thanks! __________________ 1998 318ti Sport - "Cali" Schwartz II/Schwartz sport interior, Cali top 1998 318ti Sport - "Max" Schwartz II/Schwartz sport interior, S52 1997 318ti Sport - "Tiny" Schwartz II/Schwartz sport interior 1995 318ti Active - "Blanca" Alpineweib III/Schwartz leather interior Other Current Bimmers: 2006 530i / 2000 2.3L Z3 / 1997 1.9L Z3 / 1999 540it 1997 318ti Sport - "Huera" - RIP 1995 318ti Active - RIP 1995 318ti Sport - "Tiny" Sold 1994 325i Sedan - "Jade" - Sold 1991 318ic - "Bert" - Sold 1985 635csi sold 1984 533i "Max" Sold 1984 318i sold BMWCCA #160411 SUPPORT 318ti.org! CLICK THE LINK ABOVE! Hosting a forum like this is not free. 318ti.org is one of the best BMW forums on the web because it is member supported, not vendor supported. The cost to become a Supporter is a nominal $10.00... A YEAR! DO IT! NOW! | | | 07-01-2014, 03:44 PM | #13 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 135 | Interesting point there Rich. So, seems James was spot on about the springs including the ones on my car. Glad I popped into this thread, now I also understand that sensation that I feel of the car hopping all over the place. Time to install my DS1's. | | | 07-01-2014, 11:37 PM | #14 | Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 51 | So I am running H&R sports on my ti with stock shocks. The tramlining isnt that bad in my opinion. The rear end stays nice and planted through the turns. The ride is kind of rough and the car will scrape from time to time. I attribute that to using stock high mileage shocks. I installed new meyle hd control arms, tie rods, and delrin subframe bushings as well. The car handles amazingly now. With a set of 16" style 29's with 204/45 tires. I say go for it just make sure to get new shocks as well. | | | 07-02-2014, 01:17 AM | #15 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,451 | Quote: Originally Posted by killergopher So I am running H&R sports on my ti with stock shocks. The tramlining isnt that bad in my opinion. The rear end stays nice and planted through the turns. The ride is kind of rough and the car will scrape from time to time. I attribute that to using stock high mileage shocks. I installed new meyle hd control arms, tie rods, and delrin subframe bushings as well. The car handles amazingly now. With a set of 16" style 29's with 204/45 tires. I say go for it just make sure to get new shocks as well. | Ah, thanks! I run purple H&Rs on my 97. I have another set of purple and a set of blue. I wasn't seeing a clear reference for the TI on the H&R site, so I'm simply looking to confirm if which are the H&R super sports? Blue or Purple? BTW, I run Billy Sports with H&R purple now with staggered Style 68s. Love the ride and firmness. Wondering how the blues will ride. __________________ 1998 318ti Sport - "Cali" Schwartz II/Schwartz sport interior, Cali top 1998 318ti Sport - "Max" Schwartz II/Schwartz sport interior, S52 1997 318ti Sport - "Tiny" Schwartz II/Schwartz sport interior 1995 318ti Active - "Blanca" Alpineweib III/Schwartz leather interior Other Current Bimmers: 2006 530i / 2000 2.3L Z3 / 1997 1.9L Z3 / 1999 540it 1997 318ti Sport - "Huera" - RIP 1995 318ti Active - RIP 1995 318ti Sport - "Tiny" Sold 1994 325i Sedan - "Jade" - Sold 1991 318ic - "Bert" - Sold 1985 635csi sold 1984 533i "Max" Sold 1984 318i sold BMWCCA #160411 SUPPORT 318ti.org! CLICK THE LINK ABOVE! Hosting a forum like this is not free. 318ti.org is one of the best BMW forums on the web because it is member supported, not vendor supported. The cost to become a Supporter is a nominal $10.00... A YEAR! DO IT! 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