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Old 03-27-2009, 01:26 AM   #1
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Is this the future?

http://www.teslamotors.com/models/index.php

Well, it is sort of a hatchback (or maybe more wagon?) and seats upto 7 ppl...

Won't start delivering for 2 years (minimum) however...
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mmmm so sexy... I hope Tesla survives long enough to release it.
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those are the exact same rims that are on the SLR McLaren, I guarantee they could sell it for $10k less without them

I was watching Top Gear this week, they reviewed a Tesla Roadster and said that electric cars are the future, but not if they have batteries, the Honda FCX Clarity is the one that they say is really the future, keep that in mind before you send them the check for $50k
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Omg, it's like they took the ti and added 2 extra doors! And 0-60 in 5.6? damn... But I'd still prefer the scirroco better. I love the coupe.
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Omg, it's like they took the ti and added 2 extra doors! And 0-60 in 5.6? damn... But I'd still prefer the scirroco better. I love the coupe.
have you seen the scirroco in eurotuner?

they went essen and man are those cars AMAZING!!!

this tesla is a very sexy 2nd though
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Looks nice, but I think I'd rather have the roadster, even though it costs twice as much.

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Sorry, but where are they putting seven humans in that thing? Are there sleeping bags under the hood? Strapped to the headliner? Very intriguing but unless it's as wide as a hummer, I don't see it happening. Hard to believe it's a typo though...

Cool nonetheless and actually doable for 50 grand.
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i don't buy electric as the future.

electricity costs more than oil does...
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electricity- infinite supply from multiple sources, domestic production
oil- finite supply, mainly not ours

voila, the future.
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finiality aside, you're failing to understand that probably 99% of todays electricity generation is a by product of oil.

oil fuels the trucks (greenhouse) that diggs the coal that burns (greenhouse) to make the electricity.

oil fuels the trucks that brought the wind mills to the middle of no where.

On top of that, hydro/wind/solar/nuclear etc are all FAR off the grid right now to coal in terms of production of electricity. Coal is probably 90% or more of the USA's power generation.

further, batteries are HORRIBLE for the environment. What do you do with them when they are spent?

You gotta take it ALL the way up the 'food chain'.
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I'm thinking that Hydrogen is the future. Electricity just doesn't offer the range most people want from a car. To really get a new fuel going there has to be a seamless transition from oil to the new fuel. I think hydrogen is the best answer for that right now.

Like Pauly said, check out the FCX Clarity, besides an awesome TG episode, it is an awesome car.
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further, batteries are HORRIBLE for the environment. What do you do with them when they are spent?
exactly Top Gear's point, the FCX uses hydrogen to power the electric engine, and if we ever run out of hydrogen we've really f*cked up, I'm sure Tesla will realize that eventually

only problem I can see with hydrogen is the exhaust is water, so I'm not sure how well that will work in colder climates without the exhaust pipes freezing solid
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finiality aside, you're failing to understand that probably 99% of todays electricity generation is a by product of oil.

oil fuels the trucks (greenhouse) that diggs the coal that burns (greenhouse) to make the electricity.

oil fuels the trucks that brought the wind mills to the middle of no where.

On top of that, hydro/wind/solar/nuclear etc are all FAR off the grid right now to coal in terms of production of electricity. Coal is probably 90% or more of the USA's power generation.

further, batteries are HORRIBLE for the environment. What do you do with them when they are spent?

You gotta take it ALL the way up the 'food chain'.
Good points but...

Hard to put finality aside when most sources say we are at peak oil production (i.e. it's all down hill). And oddly enough the large draglines that clear the topsoil are electric powered. They literally run a whole new power grid for these things that are like moving buildings (my brother designs/engineers them). And you didn't say anything about coal initially you said oil. I guess what I'm thinking is that electricity does not care where it comes from and there is a grid already installed. But yup, batteries are a problem. Good thing Lithium Ion batts are much much more earth friendly than Nicad, etc. And if these really do power cars do you think people will individually dispose of them? Not a chance, it will be done thru dealers.

Electricity vs. H2? Not sure about that.
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im all for going back to a horse and buggie
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yeah but i'd still be tempted to modify it in some way
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