Two words - Auto Broker..... I find a good one will get you within about 100 bucks of the best average price. They won't beat a real loss leader price but I can work overtime easier than hassle with dealer BS>... For the financing, most credit unions will pre-approve financing, That way you go to the dealer or broker and the only topic is how much. Dave __________________ Dave - PDX 1995 318ti - Active Black and Tan. 2005 330xi - Mtech 1 - 6spd - Orient Blue/Black |