When I have to use a oil change place, I stop outside and make the guy come out, then I ask to see their torque wrench for the oil pan bolt and ask what they are torquing it to. My jeep has all heavy synthetics in the gear boxes and I have to threaten them with death if they touch any drain plug but the motor... Its just not worth it to me to have them do it... Dave __________________ Dave - PDX 1995 318ti - Active Black and Tan. 2005 330xi - Mtech 1 - 6spd - Orient Blue/Black |