My issue with this is that I have to drive on the same roads as the people who do these reckless things. (I'm not attacking the OP here, just saying in general) I think that if we can convince someone to have fun with their car at a track or auto-x or somewhere away from innocent people then it's a good thing. __________________ ~Dave~ 98 328ti Morea Grun slicktop 11 128i space gray slicktop 13 JGC WK2 Deep Cherry Search | RealOEM |