Yeah yeah, i'll see about those pics. I'll see if i can "borrow" my dad's camera for a bit for some nice ones, he's the only one with a decent camera around here. But i actually found this site through the bimmer forums. I thought that might be the best source, but a handy link directed me here. But actually, my dad just snagged the 850ci a few weeks ago. He had been looking around for them a while and one just really conveniently popped up on auto trader, so he jumped on it. Black on Black too, very nice. But i noticed something pretty different (or at least i think) on my ti. It has a california sunroof, any info on this? Did it only come on specific models or something? But then again, talk is cheap. I'll get some pics up as soon as i can. Oh, and thanks for the replies