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m black 07-22-2011 09:31 PM

TI hits the big time in the uk
 
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spidertri 07-22-2011 10:40 PM

Is it a spec suspension for the series or are you free to pick spring rates and damper valving? Do they convert to a true coilover in the rear?

m black 07-23-2011 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by spidertri (Post 305513)
Is it a spec suspension for the series or are you free to pick spring rates and damper valving? Do they convert to a true coilover in the rear?

Springs are free all cars have to run the same unit including valving the rears are full coilovers see pic the front is converted to run 4 deg neg camber,

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spidertri 07-23-2011 12:18 PM

Wow thats interesting. What kind of reinforcement did you do to the trailing arm and shock tower to run a true coilover?

m black 07-24-2011 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by spidertri (Post 305555)
Wow thats interesting. What kind of reinforcement did you do to the trailing arm and shock tower to run a true coilover?

No reinforcement to top mount or rear arm but we do have a rose jointed top mount i will get some pics .

Prince 07-24-2011 05:57 PM

That looks interesting! What benefits does changing to a 'true' coilover over the independant spring and shock give you?

1996 328ti 07-24-2011 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince (Post 305632)
That looks interesting! What benefits does changing to a 'true' coilover over the independant spring and shock give you?

This seems to be a good read.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Coilover-S...-Cons&id=12461
And according to http://www.sportcompactonly.com/Coil...rticle_a-6.htm, girls dig it. :)

spidertri 07-25-2011 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince (Post 305632)
That looks interesting! What benefits does changing to a 'true' coilover over the independant spring and shock give you?

More spring travel I suppose, you can run lower spring rates compared to the stock location and end up with similar wheel rates. It would probably be easier to adjust ride height (and corner balance) with the spring closer to the rear of the car.

You'd lose inner wheel clearance if the spring doesn't sit above the tire. It seems hard to believe that reinforcement isn't necessary. The shock towers rip out with just shocks, I can't imagine the spring force helping that situation any.

Prince 07-25-2011 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by spidertri (Post 305702)
More spring travel I suppose, you can run lower spring rates compared to the stock location and end up with similar wheel rates. It would probably be easier to adjust ride height (and corner balance) with the spring closer to the rear of the car.

You'd lose inner wheel clearance if the spring doesn't sit above the tire. It seems hard to believe that reinforcement isn't necessary. The shock towers rip out with just shocks, I can't imagine the spring force helping that situation any.

I think it's a stange one because my E36 is the first car I've owned with independant shocks and springs so it makes me wonder why BMW done it that way.

spidertri 07-25-2011 02:49 PM

My Mk4 jetta has separate shocks and springs. With the ti and z3 they were really just reusing a known design and it probably has to with packaging and clearances. I know the E39s have coilovers at all 4 corners.

m black 07-25-2011 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince (Post 305704)
I think it's a stange one because my E36 is the first car I've owned with independant shocks and springs so it makes me wonder why BMW done it that way.

I can only tell you what is happening to the race cars no problems yet but it is early days, we are racing this weekend at snetterton i will post any problems
http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/...s/100_5826.jpg
A pic off the rear you can see how basic the cars are and the rose jointed off set topmounts.

familytruckster 07-25-2011 09:24 PM

Holy crap, not even the "stock" reinforcements. Wow, I'll be amazed if you guys don't have issues. At least if you do it's a known problem and easy to fix.

Are these races televised at all? Available online?

m black 07-27-2011 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by familytruckster (Post 305730)
Are these races televised at all? Available online?

Not televised its the first season we are still trying are best to get noticed maybe one day
We do have a few drivers race vids enjoy


Prince 07-28-2011 02:59 PM

That looks like great fun!

m black 08-02-2011 05:14 PM

compact cup rounds 3 and 4 sneterton
 
I will post some pics and videos has i get hold of it en http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvnJSfuSz7Ujoy
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