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wolferj-RIP 04-30-2009 05:02 AM

1-series start button wiring?
 
So I bought a new 1 series start button for a fun little mod, but I cannot find anywhere on the internets a wiring diagram for the 1-series button. It is a 10 pin plug-in. (the Z8 one is only a 4 pin)

Help anyone?

Xenocide 04-30-2009 01:03 PM

Get a multimeter and start playing.

wolferj-RIP 04-30-2009 05:23 PM

That's my plan today, was just hoping for a little wiring cheat sheet...

Xenocide 05-01-2009 09:40 PM

well make one for the rest of us :)

wolferj-RIP 05-01-2009 11:55 PM

Well no such luck... The 1-series button has no direct electrical contacts and uses micro-amp signals relayed by a magnetic bar position inside the button. It also functions as the engine shut-off as well as start, and the circuitry is integrated...

Long story short, I'm no electrical engineer, so I will have to locate another start button (from a Z8 or S2000) to finish this right. I rigged a simple on/off rocker switch to function as a momentary start button while I find the right button to replace it with.

Pics coming later today...

tiFreak 05-02-2009 12:48 AM

hope no one breaks into your car before then :lol: there are some universal ones on eBay, maybe you could get one of those

John318ti 05-02-2009 03:57 AM

Hey James if you get this done you should do a write up on the procedure. I have been thinking about doing it, but don't know if I would be able to pull it off myself...
Maybe I'll start hunting for a Z8 or S2000 button now :smile:

wolferj-RIP 05-02-2009 04:23 AM

The procedure is not difficult, John and I will take pictures. There are a couple of write-ups out there, but I will do another one here.

And Brendan, the car is safe. The way I wired it still requires the key in the ignition and has a safety feature as well... While I was doing the procedure, I figured out how to bypass the ignition cylinder altogether, but I will not post that in a public forum...

John318ti 05-02-2009 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolferj (Post 227455)
The procedure is not difficult, John and I will take pictures. There are a couple of write-ups out there, but I will do another one here.

And Brendan, the car is safe. The way I wired it still requires the key in the ignition and has a safety feature as well... While I was doing the procedure, I figured out how to bypass the ignition cylinder altogether, but I will not post that in a public forum...

Okay thanks James :biggrin: it would definitely have to require the key in the ignition for me to want to even do it. Way to sketchy if anyone could jump in and push a button to start it.

tiFreak 05-02-2009 10:39 PM

I was thinking you had probably did that, wasn't sure

if you do a write-up I might just do this myself, I know a guy with an E36 M3 with a push button start and it's so cool :biggrin:

Bozola 05-02-2009 10:57 PM

You could post a request on 1addicts.com
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wolferj-RIP 05-03-2009 05:29 AM

Frederick, that would be a great idea, but I chose another route. There is no way to utilize the circuitry in the start button as it is far more complex than the e36 was designed for.

So, I disassembled the switch:

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...y/IMG_3066.jpg

removed the circuit board, and utlilzed the button components and fabricated contacts inside...
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...y/IMG_3079.jpg
Since the way I'm using it is simply as a momentary contact switch, it only required one contact inside.

Then I fussed and cussed and tweaked and glued and drilled and screwed;

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...y/IMG_3080.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...y/IMG_3084.jpg

and this is the end result:

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...y/IMG_3082.jpg

And installed;

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...y/IMG_3086.jpg

tiFreak 05-03-2009 05:41 AM

looks good, the locations not where I would have chosen, I would have rather had it on the dash somewhere but I'm assuming it's a pain to mount there, still pretty cool

wolferj-RIP 05-03-2009 06:30 AM

Thanks Pauly...

I had originally planned on mounting it here:

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...y/IMG_3050.jpg

That is where clex2 mounted his Z8 button, and it seemed logical, but I decided otherwise for me...

I always put the key in the ignition, push in the clutch, check the shift knob and make sure the car is in Neutral, then start the car. Where I mounted it is closer to the shifter and hand brake. Also the hand brake is the safety... The start button won't work unless the hand brake is up.

Maverix 05-03-2009 06:41 AM

Whoa, looks very nice!

But yea I agree with pauly. I would put it somewhere visible.


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