WILL 19" RIMS FIT A '95 318TI?

[napeterson]

I Am Looking To Put Either 18" Or 19" (if They Fit) Bellagio Spinners On My 1995 318ti, Will They Fit, Or Do I Need To Look For A Different Rim??

Will Any 19" Rims Fit, If So What Are My Options?

I Would Like To Get Spinners, Does Anyone Know Of Any That Will Fit?

Thanks!

[hotdog19d]

I'm sorry but, please don't put spinners on your TI. It's your car, but I think its not appropriate on a BMW. In fact mentioning it on here is probably taboo. Look on tirerack.com for more info on wheel tire combinations.

[barische]

i think 19s wont fit e36 cars. 18s will fit. if u really want 19s u might have play around wiht the fenders and fenders wells and siht and stuff alotta pain and headache might as well save lots of moeny and get 18s. im against bmws with the ****in escalade drug dealer wheels.

[GDB]

To answer the question, 19s will fit, atleast on a regular E36, I'm not sure how our rear fenders compare to theirs. As for the spinners, your car will lose all semblance of speed and quickness due to the tremendous weight of spinner wheels. That's a big reason that you only see them on Sport Futility Vehicles, trucks, and cars with big torquey motors.

[96cali]

I do not know what this guy wants, check his other threads. Near as I can tell he is looking to put $4000 rims on a car he will sell to himself when he becomes a pimpin gangsta. WTF???:ashamed:

[demeegod]

Anyhow, I have 19" wheels on my car with low profile tires... they fit perfectly... my car is lower as well... sports suspension lower.. but if it gets too low.. you hit wheel well and fender... so it can only be lowered so much.

Spinners are just tacky imho.

[needle332rur]

Whatever :rolleyes:

[Woofy318i]

lol, spinners on a 318ti, i got to see that **** yet

[jflip2002]

Wow, ummmm.... Spinners you say ehhhh. I mean, I thought I was a little out there because I dont want to go with aftermarket BMW wheels. But spinners? hmmmm, ummmmm.....Yeah, 19"s will fit. They fit fine, you just gotta use a low profile tire, probably a 40 or so. Before you go and spend that money on spinners, check out something clean, but "ballin". Maybe Lowenhart LSRs (I like them, but theyre $1400 per rim, without tires.), or Giovanna Genoas (what Im looking to get soon hopefully). Theyre nice, yet clean. If you gotta go that route, get an issue of DUB. Yes, I get DUB, so I myself must have some "street cred" lol. It has tons of pics, and you can find something different, but clean and classy.

Please do not put spinners on anything. SUV, Truck, NOTHING. They are lame, and cheesy.

[cali-ti]

not sure they're actually spinners ... at least not like the "traditional" ones i see (pimpin' it up old skuul):

http://www.mhtwheels.com/wheel.cfm?brand=3&cat=15

[H3_2.1-ti]

Dude, sell the ti and buy an escalade! (lol)

[jflip2002]

superbuytires.com (search by vehicle)........ nice clean wheels (along with funky ass ghetto ones) are on there. I went looking to save your TI, and how about some Gianelle V5Bs... Foose Speedsters..... Niche Rhine...Zenetti Mystik.... Or Savini ST-1.

Just some quick wheels to look at. I will drive my car into a pole if I see a TI with 19" spinners on it.

[myblueTI]

what ever you do is put the money into a supercharger or something usefull not spinners. It would look very tacky and you have to roll under you wheel wells :2gun:

[amd2132]

GO FOR THE SPINNER HUB CAPS INSTEAD THEY ARE SO SICK!! asdl;fasjashdfasdfjaskd sorry just thew up on myself a little bit ... jk ... no really. lol :no: I bet this is all a joke to get people fired up lol who would ACTUALLY do this to a ti ??? lol O well it made me laugh at least.

[city]

I have 19's on my car.. :?

[cali-ti]

yeah, but they aren't spinners, right city? :p

[GDB]

I have 19's on my car.. :?
RICER!!! ;)

[city]

no spinners for me I dont need 5 thousand pound wheels. "Lightweight" 19's are the way to go, although wheels that big are more $$ when they are light.

[jflip2002]

245/30/19's are the required tires for 19"s to fit.

[Rally318ti]

www.ikonwheels.com look at the GT5 in 19" with P225/40r18 no probs fitment

[GDB]

www.ikonwheels.com look at the GT5 in 19" with P225/40r18 no probs fitment

That's impressive that they fit an 18" tire on a 19" wheel :biggrin:

[jflip2002]

225's are a little narrow for 19"s I would think

[H3_2.1-ti]

The ideal fitment for a ti is a 19x8 wheel with a 40mm offset with a 235/35/19 tire. It is the widest combination possible without encountering problems. Rear arch work will still be necessary. Personally I wouldn't go bigger than 18s unless the 19s are for shows.

Cheers,

[jflip2002]

245 fit on 19"x8.5" wheels. 225s are meant for 7.5" wheels. Why get something more narrow than needed? You can easily fit 8.5" wide wheels, and the wider the better, so I'd go with those

[Rally318ti]

I stand corrected! Sorry guys posted a bit too fast

p235/35r19 is right with a 42 offset

[H3_2.1-ti]

245 fit on 19"x8.5" wheels. 225s are meant for 7.5" wheels. Why get something more narrow than needed? You can easily fit 8.5" wide wheels, and the wider the better, so I'd go with those

I'd like to see you fit that size on your car. What size do you have 16s?
For starters you would need major rear arch mods and second, a steering limiter would be needed on the rack. Don't get fooled by people. It is impossible to fit that size on a ti without major work. Also not having a multi link rear suspension makes a difference on tow and castor angles.

Cheers,

[jflip2002]

I have 225/50/16.... Doing the math 245/30/19 are about an inch bigger, and I have room to spare in my wheel well. As for 8.5" wide, that's where I'm going off of what I was told. The program at the wheel shop said that it fits 8.5" wode wheels

[jflip2002]

City has 19" wheels..... Ask him what mods he needed to do

[H3_2.1-ti]

City has 19" wheels..... Ask him what mods he needed to do

Why don't you just ask me what I'm running?

I have Hartge 18x8.5 with a 40mm offset riding on 225/40/18 Dunlops. There is steering limiter on the rack and the rear arches (fender lips) were rolled and machined at least a half inch. So, like I said I'd like to see you fit those 19x8.5 with 245/30/19s in the rear without modifications.

BTW, we are here to discuss and steer other ti enthusiasts in the right direction, please if you are not sure of what you are writing don't write it.

Also, city bought his car from a guy in Jersey. I met the original owner and the rear arches were modified to fit the 19s!

Cheers,

[cali-ti]

For starters you would need major rear arch mods and second, a steering limiter would be needed on the rack. Don't get fooled by people. It is impossible to fit that size on a ti without major work. Also not having a multi link rear suspension makes a difference on tow and castor angles.

for those "in the know," what is the largest width/outer diameter (i should be able to figure back to rim size/etc) that one can put on WITHOUT any mods to rack/fenders/wheel arches?

[H3_2.1-ti]

for those "in the know," what is the largest width/outer diameter (i should be able to figure back to rim size/etc) that one can put on WITHOUT any mods to rack/fenders/wheel arches?


17x7.5 with 38mm offset running 225/45/17 tires.

Cheers,

[cali-ti]

17x7.5 with 38mm offset running 225/45/17 tires.

Cheers,
thanks H3!

[H3_2.1-ti]

thanks H3!

Anytime!

[cali-ti]

now that i think about it ... i remember tire rack listing something about being able to use a staggered setup (wider in back). is that true? if so, what rim/tire combo is allowed in the back without mods? or does one have to mod if you do a staggered setup? TIA

[H3_2.1-ti]

now that i think about it ... i remember tire rack listing something about being able to use a staggered setup (wider in back). is that true? if so, what rim/tire combo is allowed in the back without mods? or does one have to mod if you do a staggered setup? TIA


For starters, a vehicle with 138hp does not require a staggered set up. It does not have the adequate power. On a 318ti, it already has factory dialed understeer. A staggered set up would be just a cosmetic upgrade. If you really desire this look (8.5 wide in the rear), you must modify the rear arches and incur the added expense of replacing tires more often (you will not be able to rotate the tires front to back or visa versa).

Like I mentioned before, my rear arches were modified and I'm running 18x8.5 all around. I dialed the Eibach/Hartge sway bars for slight oversteer. A blast on the track in he dry, but a handfull in the wet.

Cheers

[cali-ti]

ok ... i missed that part in the thread. at this point (still stock), i'll look to the size you indicated when i finally get around to upgrading wheels. want to do other mods first (x-brace, sways). thanks man :)

as an aside, what size are your sways? i was looking at the H&R set as my upgrade.

[H3_2.1-ti]

ok ... i missed that part in the thread. at this point (still stock), i'll look to the size you indicated when i finally get around to upgrading wheels. want to do other mods first (x-brace, sways). thanks man :)

as an aside, what size are your sways? i was looking at the H&R set as my upgrade.


28" front and 19" rear. Both are adjustable.

Cheers,

[Stomp]

Come on now.......to each their own.
If he wants to put 19" spinners on his TI, then I say do whatever makes you happy.

HOWEVER........ I wouldn't be caught dead with spinners on my TI. Spinners are nothing more than a Ghetto fad. They will be SO old and stupid by tomorrow. I can think of plenty of other things to spend the money on.
Me, personally, I like chrome 18" M5 wheels. That's about as Ghetto as I get.

~Stomp~

[jflip2002]

As for me being called out, it was unfair and unjustified. Im not a big mouth just pouring out useless information all over these boards. I actually called 2 tire shops in town, and they said (according to their software) that 19x8.5 will fit without any modifications. Now if they are wrong, I can eat some crow for that information, but I did do what I thought was adequate research before I opened my mouth.

And as for modifying the rear arches.... Whats the deal with that? I dont get how you would modify them. By make the fenders wider, or by bending different parts? Are you saying 19"x8.5" wont fit, or ANY 19"s wont fit? Is it the 19" or the 8.5" thats going to cause the problems? I have also called on this issue, and the mechanics said theyve never had any run-ins with that problem. but then again they said they never had anyone put 19"s on a TI.

[H3_2.1-ti]

As for me being called out, it was unfair and unjustified. Im not a big mouth just pouring out useless information all over these boards. I actually called 2 tire shops in town, and they said (according to their software) that 19x8.5 will fit without any modifications. Now if they are wrong, I can eat some crow for that information, but I did do what I thought was adequate research before I opened my mouth.

And as for modifying the rear arches.... Whats the deal with that? I dont get how you would modify them. By make the fenders wider, or by bending different parts? Are you saying 19"x8.5" wont fit, or ANY 19"s wont fit? Is it the 19" or the 8.5" thats going to cause the problems? I have also called on this issue, and the mechanics said theyve never had any run-ins with that problem. but then again they said they never had anyone put 19"s on a TI.

At this point,

I think we are just repeating the same questions over and over. The question was already answered, so just take the facts as they are.

[jflip2002]

How was the question answered? You said they wouldn't fit, but didn't say how. If you say 19x8.5 won't fit, will 18x8.5s not fit? Will 19x7.5s not fit? I'm just wondering what's the problem, the diameter or the width? So no, that wast answered.

[H3_2.1-ti]

How was the question answered? You said they wouldn't fit, but didn't say how. If you say 19x8.5 won't fit, will 18x8.5s not fit? Will 19x7.5s not fit? I'm just wondering what's the problem, the diameter or the width? So no, that wast answered.

The problem is the width. 19s diameter-wise can fit. The rear of a ti has the E30 trailing arm suspension therefore limiting the space. The rear arches can either be rolled using special tool that bolts on to the hub and with pressure on the inside of the lip rolls it towards the outside. The other option is to cut the lip with a cutting wheel and grind it clean. This requires repriming and painting. I am talking from experience working on several tis.

I hope this answers your questions.

BTW, I hope you weren't offended by what I said about people being misled by wrong info. It was a general statement for all on this forum. There have been a lot of enthusiasts misled on other forums that led to expensive consequences and as I mentioned before, we are here to help each other.

Cheers,

[jflip2002]

Thank you. That should actually make my decision on my soon coming wheels easier. Only one of the two wheels I liked were available in 19x7.5" that I know of. At least 19"s can fit, that started to dissapoint me

I don't know if it would look tacky, but I've seen plastic pieces that make you body look wider. What if you pop rivet those on, bondo them, paint, etc..... Then you cut you actual fender, so the plastic piece would give you another .5-1" of space for the width. I personally wouldn't do it, but its a though lol.

[H3_2.1-ti]

Thank you. That should actually make my decision on my soon coming wheels easier. Only one of the two wheels I liked were available in 19x7.5" that I know of. At least 19"s can fit, that started to dissapoint me

I don't know if it would look tacky, but I've seen plastic pieces that make you body look wider. What if you pop rivet those on, bondo them, paint, etc..... Then you cut you actual fender, so the plastic piece would give you another .5-1" of space for the width. I personally wouldn't do it, but its a though lol.

19x7.5 should fit, but make sure you have the right offset.

[jflip2002]

What would the correct offset be... 40 mm? And Im not quite sure on what Id be cutting. A part of the frame back there that would be hitting?

[H3_2.1-ti]

What would the correct offset be... 40 mm? And Im not quite sure on what Id be cutting. A part of the frame back there that would be hitting?


If you go with a 225/35/19 tire a 38-40 mm offset should be fine.

[jflip2002]

A couple last questions to wrap this post up...... Would I be cutting the lip on the fender that goes in? or what would I be cutting. And also, whats the absolute maximum I can go. I know 7.5 will fit, and 8.5 wont... but what about 8? There are about 100x more rims that come in 19x8, rather than 19x7.5. And that'll be the last of my questions with this.

[H3_2.1-ti]

A couple last questions to wrap this post up...... Would I be cutting the lip on the fender that goes in? or what would I be cutting. And also, whats the absolute maximum I can go. I know 7.5 will fit, and 8.5 wont... but what about 8? There are about 100x more rims that come in 19x8, rather than 19x7.5. And that'll be the last of my questions with this.

I believe that you won't need to modify the lip if your going with a 7.5 width.
You will most likely have to modify the rear arches if you go with 8-8.5 widths. It would be the lip on the inside of the rear wheel arches.

Good luck,

[jflip2002]

Its probably best that I dont mess with it I guess. I got on my back and looked under there, and I have no idea what I'd have to cut away. There looks like an A Arm down there, then the only thing close to a lip, is where it looks like my trunk is. So I suppose 7.5" wide it is.

[H3_2.1-ti]

Its probably best that I dont mess with it I guess. I got on my back and looked under there, and I have no idea what I'd have to cut away. There looks like an A Arm down there, then the only thing close to a lip, is where it looks like my trunk is. So I suppose 7.5" wide it is.

What would have to be cut or rolled is the fender lip. The inside of the rear fender that would rub against the tire.

[canadian_ti]

I love this Forum, and all the members ... =)

[H3_2.1-ti]

I love this forum, and all the members

What's up with that?

[jflip2002]

I'm not quite sure, but the shock value of it gave me a good chuckle lol

[H3_2.1-ti]

I'm not quite sure, but the shock value of it gave me a good chuckle lol

Poor guy is probably confused.

[jflip2002]

Is that so surprising? Afterall..... He IS canadian lol

[canadian_ti]

don't you bash canadians, I went away from the computer for 5minutes and my stupid friend thought it would be funny to post a stupid message.

[H3_2.1-ti]

don't you bash canadians, I went away from the computer for 5minutes and my stupid friend thought it would be funny to post a stupid message.


We still luv ya!

[cali-ti]

I believe that you won't need to modify the lip if your going with a 7.5 width.
You will most likely have to modify the rear arches if you go with 8-8.5 widths. It would be the lip on the inside of the rear wheel arches.
ok, i must be missing something ... 225mm = 22.5 cm = ~8.68". this site ( http://www.yokohamatire.com/utwheels.asp ) says the rule of thumb is to use a rim width that is 90% of the tread width. ~8.68 x 0.9 = 7.97" which i would say is close enough to be called 8" :) unless the sidewall flares a good bit, i don't see why this wouldn't fit. yes/no/depends? is the 7.5" with 225's that close?

[ZeroG]

I love this Forum, and all the members ... =)

Thanks, Candian_TI for all your nice remarks !!!!

[jflip2002]

I always thought 8" would fit... Now I'm F'ing confused lol

[moku]

You can run 8" wide without issue, even lowered, depending on your offset. I'm running BBS RKs 17x8 with 225/45/17 tires and I'm not rubbing. I originally was running 235/45/17 tires and didn't have any problems with those either.

The only time I've experienced rubbing is when I have to turn the wheels while going up and incline, with a passenger in the car. But that has to do more with the drop that I have up front (slightly less than a 1-finger gap between the tire and wheel well).

But overall, an 8" wheel with the proper offset can fit all around.

[canadian_ti]

hahah no problem ZeroG,..

[Fast_Eddie]

Why don't you just ask me what I'm running?

I have Hartge 18x8.5 with a 40mm offset riding on 225/40/18 Dunlops. There is steering limiter on the rack and the rear arches (fender lips) were rolled and machined at least a half inch. So, like I said I'd like to see you fit those 19x8.5 with 245/30/19s in the rear without modifications.

BTW, we are here to discuss and steer other ti enthusiasts in the right direction, please if you are not sure of what you are writing don't write it.

Also, city bought his car from a guy in Jersey. I met the original owner and the rear arches were modified to fit the 19s!

Cheers,

Hello, while browsing the Internet I came across this discussing, and what I have to say is that 245/30/19s will fit on a 19X8.5 without modification on the rear. I personally have Dunlop’s 245/30/19s on a 19X9 on the rear and I had to do minor mods!!

[cali-ti]

Hello, while browsing the Internet I came across this discussing, and what I have to say is that 245/30/19s will fit on a 19X8.5 without modification on the rear. I personally have Dunlop’s 245/30/19s on a 19X9 on the rear and I had to do minor mods!!
is yours lowered or stock height? if stock, is it a sport/active/base?

[Fast_Eddie]

I will say that spinners look horrible on cars especially on BMW's(CHEESY), now on SUV's Like the Cadillac,Yukon Denali, Hummers etc. I will say it looks awsome, please do not put spinners!!! in reference to 19" rims I have a set on my car(staggered look) that I will be selling the specs are Rear 19 X 9 Front 19 X 8.5. they fit my car perfect, if anyone would like pictures please email me at ednpc@aol.com!!

[jflip2002]

Heres a question/Idea.... Its somewhat hard finding 19"s that will fit our 318ti allegedly, due to the width. What if we buy the fender flares, pop rivet, mold them in, then cut the original fender that is underneath the flares. Im not sure how much it is to have our fender machine rolled, but if its just a matter of hammering up that little lip, I can handle that =x Just an idea that popped into my head when running through ebay!